API to force guide updates?

the EPG data, or the actual channel sources?

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Set your tubi source XMLTV Guide Data to refresh once per hour.
I find even then it will drop to less than 24 hours of guide data (I have 23 now) until it recovers again every night.

I have it set to the minimum (1 Hour), but I'm still missing prime time data about 1 out of every 3 days.

I'm missing EPG data going out as far as 14 hours. Most days I have all the data, but about 1/3 of the time, I'm missing the last few hours.

and you've looked at the EPG data manually to see if it's actually there?

@ken,

I use Olivetin ONE Click to create MY TUBI Source that way it is split up into 2 Sources one with grace note guide data that has 14 days. And the other is much smaller that has TUBI EPG. The NoEPG usually only has 1 day... I refresh the NoEPG every hour.

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@TV_Ken You can slm to map channels that don't have EPG data to gracenote and the rest you can set to refresh every hour.

I'm sure that it is not there when my daily automated run takes place, but is shows up when I check later on.

I changed the run time of my daily run, which helped a little, but I'm still having problems.

I am currently set to:
http://localhost:7781/tubi/epg.xml

Is there some setting that will get me the Gracenote data?

Just go the localhost:7781. It will give you the gracenote feed.

You don’t need the epg with the gracenote playlist.

Correct.

@TV_Ken

I update the source XMLTV every hour and have a script running that checks how much guide data there is every hour on one channel.
In the last month it has varied from 14 to 47 hours guide data for that channel.
I find it updates fully with 40+ hours guide data daily anywhere between 4PM - MIDNIGHT my time.

Check the DVR log to see if your tubi XMLTV guide data is refreshing every hour.
There's an issue if you have different XMLTV sources refreshing at different intervals where some get skipped.

DVR log
2025/05/13 17:57:13.558593 [DVR] Fetched guide data for XMLTV-tubiTV in 138ms
2025/05/13 17:57:22.526974 [DVR] Indexed 5071 airings into XMLTV-tubiTV (177 channels over 30h30m0s) + 900 skipped [8s index]
2025/05/13 19:00:42.347798 [DVR] Fetched guide data for XMLTV-tubiTV in 135ms
2025/05/13 19:00:50.056551 [DVR] Indexed 4792 airings into XMLTV-tubiTV (177 channels over 30h15m20s) + 1179 skipped [7s index]
2025/05/13 20:01:11.104597 [DVR] Fetched guide data for XMLTV-tubiTV in 19s
2025/05/13 20:01:26.320542 [DVR] Indexed 9715 airings into XMLTV-tubiTV (177 channels over 53h30m0s) + 0 skipped [14s index]
2025/05/13 21:11:51.825705 [DVR] Fetched guide data for XMLTV-tubiTV in 178ms
2025/05/13 21:12:15.474880 [DVR] Indexed 9458 airings into XMLTV-tubiTV (177 channels over 50h0m0s) + 257 skipped [23s index]
2025/05/13 22:15:44.451959 [DVR] Fetched guide data for XMLTV-tubiTV in 224ms
2025/05/13 22:15:58.649237 [DVR] Indexed 9236 airings into XMLTV-tubiTV (177 channels over 49h30m0s) + 479 skipped [13s index]
2025/05/13 23:19:38.671747 [DVR] Fetched guide data for XMLTV-tubiTV in 190ms
2025/05/13 23:19:52.193805 [DVR] Indexed 9017 airings into XMLTV-tubiTV (177 channels over 48h40m0s) + 698 skipped [13s index]
2025/05/14 00:19:59.515294 [DVR] Fetched guide data for XMLTV-tubiTV in 153ms
2025/05/14 00:20:13.204155 [DVR] Indexed 8801 airings into XMLTV-tubiTV (177 channels over 48h29m9s) + 914 skipped [13s index]
2025/05/14 01:26:41.455442 [DVR] Fetched guide data for XMLTV-tubiTV in 243ms
2025/05/14 01:26:55.694291 [DVR] Indexed 8559 airings into XMLTV-tubiTV (177 channels over 48h29m9s) + 1156 skipped [13s index]
2025/05/14 02:27:02.596454 [DVR] Fetched guide data for XMLTV-tubiTV in 157ms
2025/05/14 02:27:15.658768 [DVR] Indexed 8372 airings into XMLTV-tubiTV (177 channels over 45h30m0s) + 62 skipped [12s index]
2025/05/14 03:30:31.028618 [DVR] Fetched guide data for XMLTV-tubiTV in 141ms
2025/05/14 03:30:43.377418 [DVR] Indexed 8129 airings into XMLTV-tubiTV (177 channels over 44h41m17s) + 305 skipped [11s index]
2025/05/14 04:37:00.826481 [DVR] Fetched guide data for XMLTV-tubiTV in 125ms
2025/05/14 04:37:12.779644 [DVR] Indexed 7920 airings into XMLTV-tubiTV (177 channels over 43h4m0s) + 514 skipped [11s index]
2025/05/14 05:40:24.528341 [DVR] Fetched guide data for XMLTV-tubiTV in 124ms
2025/05/14 05:40:37.226143 [DVR] Indexed 7700 airings into XMLTV-tubiTV (177 channels over 42h31m0s) + 734 skipped [12s index]
2025/05/14 06:43:45.831704 [DVR] Fetched guide data for XMLTV-tubiTV in 201ms
2025/05/14 06:43:57.474014 [DVR] Indexed 7483 airings into XMLTV-tubiTV (177 channels over 42h31m0s) + 951 skipped [11s index]
2025/05/14 07:47:06.757667 [DVR] Fetched guide data for XMLTV-tubiTV in 199ms
2025/05/14 07:47:17.962229 [DVR] Indexed 7260 airings into XMLTV-tubiTV (177 channels over 42h31m0s) + 1174 skipped [10s index]
2025/05/14 09:10:06.687962 [DVR] Fetched guide data for XMLTV-tubiTV in 106ms
2025/05/14 09:10:17.702841 [DVR] Indexed 6944 airings into XMLTV-tubiTV (177 channels over 42h31m0s) + 9 skipped [10s index]
2025/05/14 10:15:02.647370 [DVR] Fetched guide data for XMLTV-tubiTV in 115ms
2025/05/14 10:15:13.089800 [DVR] Indexed 6732 airings into XMLTV-tubiTV (177 channels over 42h31m0s) + 221 skipped [10s index]
2025/05/14 11:21:19.893220 [DVR] Fetched guide data for XMLTV-tubiTV in 119ms
2025/05/14 11:21:29.975030 [DVR] Indexed 6511 airings into XMLTV-tubiTV (177 channels over 42h31m0s) + 442 skipped [9s index]
2025/05/14 12:24:31.681311 [DVR] Fetched guide data for XMLTV-tubiTV in 165ms
2025/05/14 12:24:42.492418 [DVR] Indexed 6287 airings into XMLTV-tubiTV (177 channels over 42h31m0s) + 666 skipped [10s index]
2025/05/14 13:27:42.053493 [DVR] Fetched guide data for XMLTV-tubiTV in 228ms
2025/05/14 13:27:51.730708 [DVR] Indexed 6080 airings into XMLTV-tubiTV (177 channels over 42h31m0s) + 873 skipped [9s index]
2025/05/14 14:27:52.338454 [DVR] Fetched guide data for XMLTV-tubiTV in 103ms
2025/05/14 14:28:01.472801 [DVR] Indexed 5864 airings into XMLTV-tubiTV (177 channels over 35h25m16s) + 1089 skipped [8s index]
2025/05/14 15:34:01.569261 [DVR] Fetched guide data for XMLTV-tubiTV in 96ms
2025/05/14 15:34:10.973619 [DVR] Indexed 5590 airings into XMLTV-tubiTV (177 channels over 31h0m1s) + 85 skipped [9s index]
2025/05/14 16:34:17.376545 [DVR] Fetched guide data for XMLTV-tubiTV in 134ms
2025/05/14 16:34:25.950930 [DVR] Indexed 5368 airings into XMLTV-tubiTV (177 channels over 31h0m1s) + 307 skipped [8s index]
2025/05/14 17:40:29.676797 [DVR] Fetched guide data for XMLTV-tubiTV in 114ms
2025/05/14 17:40:38.207547 [DVR] Indexed 5134 airings into XMLTV-tubiTV (177 channels over 29h31m17s) + 541 skipped [8s index]
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I have Tubi and Pluto set to 1 hour, but every time I set Fubo to one hour, it resets itself back to daily.

What does "gracenote=include" or "gracenote=exclude" do? For now, I have set it to "include" to see what that does for me.

That's a different issue. Changes made to a custom m3u source don't always "stick".
Recreate the source with the settings you want using a slightly different name and delete the old one.

Anytime I change anything in a source, I always do this after the changes.
Settings > Live TV & DVR > Guide Data > Maintenance :gear: > Delete and Recreate Database

Uses the Channels DVR guide data which has the correct Series ID and Movie Categories. Also provides 14 days of Robust guide data.

Gets you guide data provided by Tubi for Those that do not have Gracenote ID's but might not have complete guide Info. usually missing Categories. Sometimes using the Tubi EPG will cause Movies to be recorded in TV Folder due to missing Categories.

Thanks everyone for all your help and information. I think I understand things better now.

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