ATSC 3.0 and DRM Transition: A Historical Perspective

Ok Appears no recording yet ... as far as the HDHomeRun devices NICK stated the hold up is because it does not connect directly to a TV. I am sure glad they removed DRM in Portland OR area.

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Have you guys at Channels been in any kind of discussions with Silicon Dust or the ATSC 3 people on how to create a shared DRM chain between network tuners with third party software? Is that even going to be possible?

Don't let the Media Cartel find out about it if it does exist.

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Answer here:

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Is it possible to quote the post here. SD forums require you have account and login to read.

Wouldn't do any good. That old thread is gone and they started a new one (which you can view without logging in) Encryption - Silicondust

If you look at the post on this forum he pointed to, it has a screenshot.
https://community.getchannels.com/t/new-hdhomerun-firmware/26437/41

Or what I do is click the down arrow here to view the post without jumping to it.

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Looks like SD is still working to support DRM in their Android app. While not an ideal setup might restore the DRM channels to Channels through other workarounds. :eyes:

Yep as long as they can Play the ATSC 3.0 DRM like they do Cable DRM ADBTUNER is ready.

Yep they did say they are working on deeplinks in the App as well.

Deep links are not needed ADBTUNER uses the Channels numbers to change Channels. I use it to record Cable DRM Channels.

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Yes, on target for 2027 or 2028.

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Zapperbox has announced a client box, and a cheaper gateway tuner/DVR. These products are not for most of us here, but this company's slow-and-steady progress is good to see.

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It appears Apple TV’S lack of DRM support for ATSC 3.0 is a roadblock for SD HDFX gateways that many of us use. I would hope the DEV’S can provide guidance since almost all ATSC 3.0 is DRM encrypted.

Thanks

The Devs have no control over ATSC 3.0 encryption or over hardware. The current Atsc roadmap in CDVR primarily appears to be "wait and see." Unless a ATSC 3.0 DRM network gateway device hits the market, CDVR cant do anything. The devs/community have been focusing on ATSC 1.0 (since it actually works), FAST, Local Media, and Streaming integration. There is NOTHING CDVR devs can do to help the situation shy of lobyist and a big bag of money. Do you have any lobyist friends and a spare big bag of money?

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Or any other devs in this space. Hell, LG quit making televisions with ATSC 3.0 tuners because of the patent situation, among other things. It's now a political matter, urge your congressperson to make the FCC do what they are supposed to do, support the public taxpayers.

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This was published nearly a year ago

ATSC 3.0 Nextgen OTA TV Makes Changes to Its DRM to Help DVRs like Tablo & HDHomeRun

For months now, ATSC 3.0 has had a serious issue with DRM, preventing it from being able to work with network DVRs like the Tablo or HDHomeRun. This meant if a channel had DRM on it you wouldn’t be able to stream it over your home network through a DVR. Now, though, the team behind ATSC 3.0 Nextgen TV announced new DRM changes that will help make networked DVRs work with the new standard.

“For the past year, we’ve been working in consultation with several electronics companies who are developing devices designed to add new features for NEXTGEN TV viewers, from simple DVRs to more advanced home networking systems. After considering the various home scenarios, A3SA is pleased to release detailed specifications that will guide companies and soon provide consumers with a wealth of new options for digital video recording and more,” said Ron Wheeler, managing director of A3SA.

This change means that Tablo DVRs and HDHomeRun amount others could build DVRs for ATSC 3.0 that support the new DRM standard. This change will let them stream OTA TV channels to a long list of supported devices. “The new A3SA DVR specification supports in-home streaming to applications hosted on common media consumption platforms such as Android, Fire, Roku, WebOS, and Tizen, with iOS support in process. The spec supports dynamic memory provisioning for media playback (an advantage for consumer devices) and enables developers of new NEXTGEN TV platforms to bring to market innovative new options.” A3SA said in a statement sent to Cord Cutters News.

This is great news for fans of OTA DVRs that stream their recordings to multiple devices. Now we just have to wait for them to build these DVRs for customers.

That announcement said nothing about allowing third-party apps like Channels DVR to freely access DRM content via an HDHR. It's likely that content will per A3SA rules remain encrypted and restricted to HDHR Flex devices' attached storage, and viewable only with HDHR client apps.

I gave this Cordcutter article you quoted a thumbs down because a lot has happened in the last year and none of it is good for the consumer. Not meant for you personally. The comments on that page pretty much tell the story and nothing has improved from a consumer's POV.

While I agree in principle on the A3SA control of DRM, the 4 largest TV groups just signed a deal for data transmission. They are also moving to DRM with an understanding that affordable decoding and new sets are readily available. They don’t see a valuable pay stream for OTA signals. I suspect we will see more movement by NAB this spring. I believe there will be more set top boxes released and likely a hub this year. I just hope Channels remains a player and can interface with HDFX.

I'm not OK with the media cartels calling the shots on my* airwaves.

*as a taxpayer.

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