An update on this - I went into the “Manage” settings for one of the movies it didn’t pick up, and used the “Refresh Metadata” option. That fixed it, as it now appears in the collection. I’ll try the others when I have time.
Where do you turn on/off the stacking? I didn't see anything on the server side
It’s a client setting. On iOS at least, Settings > Library > Stack Franchises. Make sure you’re on the latest prerelease of the server, and the beta of the client.
Great addition! I have been waiting for this.
One thing I have noticed is in the “All Movies” list it puts the Franchise in the list based on the first movie it finds for that Franchise. For example the X-Men Collection is in the “D’s” since Dark Phoenix is the first move I have that is in that Franchise.
Same with Planet of the Apes. It is in the “D’s” since Dawn of the Planet of the Apes is first.
Thank you I’m so excited for this,however I’m not very technically minded so I am not on the Beta or TestFlight,can I ask how long Beta roughly takes before it’s released officially or is it too early to say yet?
Are the Franchises generated from TMDB and can you create your own or edit existing ones?
Will you be able to choose the artwork?
Will there be options to alter the order say for example Star Wars which can be viewed in different ways?
Thanks again
I’m not very technically minded so I am not on the Beta or TestFlight
Don't be afraid of the beta. We treat its stability as well as our stable version. The only thing is that you get features earlier and they will change as we develop them.
how long does Beta roughly take before it’s released officially or is it too early to say yet?
We don't post timelines.
Are the Franchises generated from TMDB
Yes.
Can you create your own or edit existing ones?
No.
Will you be able to choose the artwork?
No.
Will there be options to alter the order say for example Star Wars which can be viewed in different ways?
No.
Franchises are simply an extension of what TheMovieDB provides as metadata. We simply just use them.
If you want customizability in groups of movies, please use Library Collections.
Agreed - can we get them to sort based on the Franchise name at least?
Good catch. Resolved in the latest TestFlight beta:
Awesome! Thanks so much. Works perfect.
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Everyone using this helpful feature should also be aware that TMDB's opinion about what constitutes a "franchise" in this context may not line up with their own. For example, according to TMDB, Ocean's 8 is not included along with Ocean's 11, Ocean's 12 and Ocean's 13 in the Ocean's 11 franchise. I do wonder if that's just an oversight on their part, or if they're intentionally considering the 2018 film to be a distinct "spin-off?"
I'm browsing through 117 franchises and that's the first example that stood out to me. The rest have looked fine, so far.
Regardless, I created a Collection for these particular films, to cover the bases instead.
This is exactly why we never used these collections for our Library Collections.
We don't particularly think tons of collections with 2-3 movies in them like "Finding Nemo" and "Finding Nemo 2" are all that compelling. Especially for a top tier data point in your library.
This is why we left Library Collections to 100% curation.
"The Pixar Collection" or "Marvel Cinematic Universe" are much more useful as browsable collections, but TMDB does not group them this way.
Library Collections have also become a core mechanism in getting the most out of Channels in that they are very useful to drive other features. Along with Labels, they're great.
- Label your movies
- Create a smart collection based on Label rules
- Use Collections to drive a Virtual Channel.
We think we landed exactly where we should have with the TMDB provided collections, as they are literally just Franchise groupings. So we're glad we waited and it all kind of fell into place.
The way EMBY handles this situation it gives you the Option to add any movie to a collection simply right click on it... along with having automatic collections.
Example I have a movie that is missing from a collection ....
Maybe one day the Smart Rule Editor that is adding content to a Movie Collection could include "Franchise" in the pulldown menu options?
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Kodi does the same thing. Has their been any chatter about adding different versions to one movie tile? I can't be the only one with different qualities of the same film, due to the fact multiple devices handle various formats differently.
Is there any way to see these stacks in the web interface? I use it a lot for curating my library but haven't found where to see them?
Franchises and stacking are a feature of the client only at the moment.
We'll look at exposing, them, but as mentioned before, they will be read only.
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On that note. I discovered that the 7th installment, "Saw: The Final Chapter (2010)" wasn't being included in the "Saw" franchise. I first checked TMDB and confirmed it wasn't lncluded in their official list. There's no reasonable explanation for that, aside from it being an oversight on their part, right?
Personally speaking I'm not a fan of these movies, but I figured this would be a good experiment. So I created an account on TVDB, and I opened a ticket, and reported this issue. I included a link to their list and a link to the series "finale" that should be included in it.
https://thetvdb.com/movies/saw-the-final-chapter#lists
Within a few minutes I got a one-word reply back from [email protected]:
Done!
And sure enough, now I see that movie is included in their list.
So, that felt good. But how do I reflect this update in Channels? I'm still not seeing the 7th film show up in the franchise. I refreshed metadata for that title, I also tried to fix it as an "incorrect match" (just changed it to something else and then back again,) and for good measure I "Scanned Personal Media" again too. I force quit the client app and re-launched it to hopefully get it to reflect this new change, but the title's still not being included in the franchise.
Is there a manual CDVR command to "backfill movie franchises" again?
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Just use refresh metadata as usual. Though it might be hitting our online caches.
TVDB vs. TMDB
Doesn't Channels use TMDB?
Oh. lol. Figures. Thanks!
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