Submitted a comment to the FCC, and to my Senators and House Representative. Everyone else go do the same - let's flood them with comments on this!
Find your Congress Members here: https://www.congress.gov/members/find-your-member
Submitted a comment to the FCC, and to my Senators and House Representative. Everyone else go do the same - let's flood them with comments on this!
Find your Congress Members here: https://www.congress.gov/members/find-your-member
Please do submit a letter to the FCC at the link mentioned by slampman.
DRM is in direct violation of the TEACH ACT, see here:
https://www.avsforum.com/threads/atsc-3 ... t-63105834
and here: https://www.avsforum.com/threads/atsc-3 ... t-63106017
That NEEDS TO BE pointed out in any user comments on petitions in the future, AND brought up with our representatives...
I am, like many of the other Channels users here, and early adopter of SD 4K Flex ATSC 1.0/ATSC 3.0 'gateway' tuner/DVR. Although the ATSC 3.0 video was slightly better than ATSC 1.0 signal, but that is because none of the broadcasters transmitting ATSC 3.0 signals are actually broadcasting 4K content. Once the Channels team was able around the AC-4 audio issue, I did watch a few sporting events on the ATSC 3.0 channels here in the Phoenix area, but that stopped once most of the 'Big Four' started encrypting their signal in the name of 'DRM'. Everyone here and on the SD community went crazy.
I've been following the 'Encryption' thread out on the SD Community, and 'nickk' from SD has been trying to be upfront with the users. A couple of weeks ago, nickk and the SD team had a meeting with the A3SA (committee responsible for ATSC 3.0 security), and at first it didn't sound too promising, but in recent posts, it sounded like the SD team has come up with a plan.
Today, I saw that nickk was online so I asked a few questions and it sounds like some of the limitations are based in the decryption method that the A3SA is requiring, the SD solution will initially allow their app to view DRM encrypted channels on Android and FireTV devices (only). A3SA is aware that other platforms are also needed.
Below are a couple of screen shots from the thread. Sounds like Channels and Plex, if they ever jump on the ATSC 3.0 bandwagon, have some work and expense ahead of them to get their apps compliant.
Sounds good to me. Better than nothing, I guess for those guys and it'll be easier to pipe in the channels with HDMI/ah4c/adbtuner. Of course, no direct playback but for those who have issues getting the 1.0 signals, this is fine
Submitted per Lon's instructions and to all of my members of Congress.
I may be mis-informed but I believe the Internet connection is used with ATSC 3.0 to allow things like Prime Video or Netflix "watch parties". Something we never do. I'm skeptical of it as I suspect it will just end up being another way to push ads to your browser based on what TV broadcasts you watch.
After watching the video posted by Edwin_Perez from lon.tv he says the full ATSC 3.0 rollout won't happen until 2027, presumably this means ATSC 1.0 simucasts might be required until then. He also makes it sound like ATSC 3.0 doesn't actually broadcast UHD but uses your internet connection to stream it! You are not likely to stream UHD over a 2.4 GHz WiFi system, 5 GHz WiFi propagates so poorly you may need a mesh netowrk to cover most homes.
As to UHD vs HD our 85" Samsung QLED TV has "AI upsampling" (based on "super-resolution" AI models Python OpenCV - Super resolution with deep learning - GeeksforGeeks ).
The best UHD source I have is Blu-Ray disks. It is hard to really compare because of how long it takes to change inputs on the TV but my best effort comparing a Blu-Ray disk to an HD recording of the same show (via U-Verse TV) tells me that with a TV like this, UHD is not worth paying extra for, On a smaller set the difference between UHD and HD is reduced.
So if ATSC 1.0 continues to be simucast with ATSC 3.0 I could gut the cord with Channels DVD and a HDHR ATSC 1.0 model. Otherwise I'm stuck with U-Verse or something like youTubeTV since we DVR a lot of shows.
Comparing the CBS (our local CBS simucasts ATSC 3.0 and 1.0 for the time being) Chiefs-Ravens NFL championship game OTA on our Samsung QLED (don't know if it is ATSC 3.0 or not) The OTA seemed a bit better than U-Verse CBS channel (like because of the transcoding. For the Lions-49ers our FOX OTA (they aren't yet doing ATSC 3.0) broadcast was not watchable because it kept breaking up. I had thought I'd found an antenna and position that let me get all the OTA channels we watch, but turns out that working one day doesn't me will always work
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Video repeatedly crashes at 1:24 in. Hopefully they will get it fixed soon.
Fine here on 3 different platforms.
Yep, plays fine for me too, now. So whatever the problem, it has been resolved.
You know the most insane part of that, and a huge reason why DRM needs to be shut down? This comment:
Internet will be required to start playback of any DRM protected recording
So in order to watch free, OTA TV, everyone needs an internet connection at home. That completely bars/gatekeeps the people who probably need OTA the most - people who are poor or living paycheck to paycheck - from being able to watch TV at all. They probably do have internet, but on their call phone. That requirement's just crazy.
I don't believe that is true. You will need internet only on devices like the HDHomerun tuners. All TV's with ATSC3.0 tuners do not require internet. Although some of the advanced optional features will not be available.
If you are so poor that you don't have internet, you clearly don't have a home network running a gateway device.
But my understanding is that requirement isn't just for gateway devices.
Yes, you may be required to have internet to watch any DRM recording, but not to watch live TV. The poor people that you are so worried about should be fine, although they will be required to buy some new hardware of some type.