How Do You Use Channels?

I use Channels pretty much exclusively for integrating my IPTV sources and watching Live TV.

I do have my other media imported into Channels but still use Plex almost all the time to watch (have also been experimenting with Jellyfin lately but I’m not completely sold on Infuse as a client).

Main reason we still use Plex is I have a handful of friends that watch stuff I have. Plus I really like the metadata that it includes (artist bios, backgrounds etc). Don’t know how many times I’ve gone down the rabbit hole of seeing an actor in a movie and then seeing what other movies I have that they’re in.

I know Channels wants to be the single source of media consumption and I’d love to get there but until the UI gets an overhaul I don’t see it happening.

I use channels as the sole platform for consuming FTA, IPTV and our media library across all devices in and out of the home.

The only other apps we use for media consumption are the OTT streaming providers (Netflix etc...). Basically, anything I can get into the channels ecosystem I will. While I don't disagree some UI improvements would be welcome, overall, the app, the backend platform management and media library capabilities are excellent.

CDVR is my local content, live, dvr. I have almost completely abandon Plex. CDVR community is such a huge part of the reason. CDVR might not be as polished, but it works. Devs are awesome. They encourage users to tinker/modify & explore.

Plex only has 1 use for me. Piracy :pirate_flag::skull_and_crossbones:. I use a Appbox to have access to a server with EVERYTHING. But i pnly use itbif I cant get it in CDVR or one of the streaming platforms I have. Plex is superior at managing/organizing large libraries. But CDVR had made huge strides and is quickly closing that app. If it wasnt for piracy I would have no use for plex. And t Plec banned my lifetime account. . . . I don't blame plex for that. I was 100% violating TOS. But im still angrym

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I used to use two different programs like you, but Channels just got better and better and I ran out of excuses not to switch.

I do keep the content separate though. Using personal sections, I keep my recorded content in sections called "DVR TV" and DVR Movies", and my ripped from disc content in sections called "My TV" and "My Movies". The "My" content cannot be deleted from the client, while the DVR content can be.

I’ll have to explore personal sections more. This is exactly what has been one if my biggest frustrations as to why I use separate apps. There was never a meaningful way to separate my content like that.

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I use Channels as a "Cable Box" replacement. It is Live TV and DVR.

I used to run Emby (for many years before Channels) for TV with a Cable Card tuner, but the TVE function of CDVR let me move over for TV use.

I continued to use Channels for TV/DVR and Emby for local media for a while, until i moved over to Apple TV, after Android TV got ruined by their ads and content aggregation crap.
Emby devs did not care about Apple side of things much at all, so i ended up using Infuse Pro as a front end player to connect to Emby for my local media library.

I started to have more and more issues with Emby server, mainly metadata issues, so i moved over to Plex, which, i liked better for a local media server. Still using Infuse as front-end player though.

At some point, Channels updated to have Personal sections and have more focus on Local Media, so i migrated to using Channels for 99% of my library. Also, Infuse went through some issues with playback performance around that same time, so the move to Channels was more needed at that time.

After a bit though, an issue still annoys me with Channels. I get flickering. Alot in animation. Not sure what it is, posted about it in another thread while back, but something with Channels player causes my Samsung tv to flicker, alot with backgrounds or certain colors/shading. Infuse and the tv's built in media player do not do this.

So, at present, i am back to using Channels for TV/DVR and Infuse to play all my other local media (but am just using its built in SMB connection and no Plex/Emby server).
Channels though, has better audio processing, wider soundstage, more details, so i still play back my music videos in Channels, especially for headphone use. But, Infuse i find better (at present) for HDR movie playback, it just does the tone mapping, luminance and contrast a tad better. Though my Samsung tv's built in media player via usb input is even better than Infuse, but it a pain to use.

So, tldr, i tend to float around using various software's for specific uses.

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I use Channels DVR to record and watch videos via HDHomeRun Prime, TVE and a few custom channels such as Pluto and Plex. Adding the Stream Link Manager plugin allows us to have all of the shows and movies we like to watch in one place. I have a lifetime Plex Pass and use Plex as the way to watch home movies and videos I download. This avoids the Channels DVR interface from becoming too busy. Features like custom channels would allow me to seperate the videos yet it's more maintenance than value to me.

All I've worked to do for years and years is to have one singular and simple interface for all my media, and Channels + User Community Projects covers 98% of all my situations. My Plex Lifetime pass has depreciated in value to zero since I don't even bother with having a PMS installed anymore.

:white_check_mark: All stations from OTA, TVE, FAST, Live Streams, and any other capture technology I want in a combined guide (that is itself broken down into sub-guides)

:white_check_mark: All movies, TV shows, and videos combined together no matter if they are sourced from recordings, imported video files, or on a streaming provider

:white_check_mark: Granular control in almost every way I want, set-and-forget functions that don't require babysitting for the things I don't want to think about

:white_check_mark: Ways to fix things that are wrong or just not the way I like to see it (like metadata) without hacking/breaking

:white_check_mark: Some ability to create custom/limited experiences per device using labels (i.e., only certain programs and stations showing up on a particular user device)

:white_check_mark: A light, efficient server application that does not take over all my system resources and does not require changing hundreds of deeply hidden controls to act reasonably

:white_check_mark: Apps and web interfaces that actually work

:white_check_mark: Responsive support and access to developers who actually use the product and are excited about continuing to develop it and not just monetize their users with things no one asked for

Could some things be better? Sure, absolutely, Channels isn't perfect and has some minor gaps (and don't even get me started on the feature gap between Apple and Android as well as the Apps and the Web Interface). Here's a wishlist of some items that I'd like but don't take away from the experience for me:

:no_entry: User profiles (and the ability to switch between them) instead of doing assignments per device

:no_entry: Source stacking; for instance, if I have a movie on several streaming providers and a recording, I can choose which one I want to play instead of having literal copies of the same item in my library

:no_entry: Automatic A/V redirect; instead of Channels opening up third party apps, taking the output of those apps and putting them inside the Channels player. You can sort-of do some of this with user created tools, but out-of-the-box would be so nice.

:no_entry: Organizational folder structure, especially for videos. The one thing Plex and other things like it do very well is allow users to have whatever structure they want for subfolder hierarchy. Channels is flat. Library Collections help with this somewhat, but it's flat, too. This also ties into User profiles.

:no_entry: Parent-child relationships in general. As an example, I can create a bunch of small guides for different topics (Animals, News, Houses), but I can't combine those small guides together into a big guide. Instead, I would have to create another small guide that combines those stations together, thus having two points of maintenance. The same could be said for Library Collections and many things like them. It all comes back to Channels taking a flat approach instead of a hierarchical one.

:no_entry: Music, although I don't even use my files anymore and just use Spotify, so I suppose not really a concern for me anymore

None of the above are show-stoppers for me or a reason I'd want to reinstall Plex. These very minor limitations are easy enough to work around, so long as you understand Channels' approach. And hey, since this product is being developed all the time, what I've listed might not even be true in the future. There have been plenty of times that the Devs have said, "We're not going to do that." and then have done it anyway!

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I've played with a lot of ways to do it but in the end I've found this basic setup works well for me and my family:

I'm relatively new to the Channels community, having been a Cable TV subscriber for many years I finally cut the cord this past summer and have been using Channels for less than a year. So far I've been very impressed with the ease of using Channels. Paired with a HDHR Flex 4k it's a great replacement for the DVR functionality my family had become accustomed to for recording shows from Network TV stations.
As a non-Apple user I have Channels running on a Windows 11 PC with Firesticks on every TV, which I feel is rather limiting with the Apple focus of Channels. There are many features, such as Personal Sections, that seem like they would solve some of the annoyances I have with Channels, but are only available on Apple products.

Channels -> Live TV Watcher and occasional video watch
Jellyfin -> DVR Viewer

For me channels is my replacement for TiVo. I was not a cord cutter, the cord was cut for me. The cable company decided that they would no longer support cable cards. I had used TiVo for many many years, and this notification caught me very off guard. I never imagined in a million years that I'd have to give up something that was working so well.

Obviously the cable company wants you to switch to their DVR, but there was no way I would consider it so I started looking for something that could replace it. After a good amount of searching I finally came across Channels Whole Home DVR. It took a good bit of effort getting it setup and I definitely don't think that's for everyone.

But in the end, the amount of content I have access to now greatly dwarfs what I had with a local cable subscription. Had they not pulled the rug out from under me I would probably still be using TiVo to this day... it's like they flung me out of the nest and made me go searching and it opened my eyes to a whole new world.

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I use Channels for live TV, Pluto, and DVR. But Plex still wins when watching a series or movie from your library. If Channels ever gets around to adding a Skip Intro / Skip Credits feature, I might be able to fully migrate to it. But that suggestion has been floating around for years and has never been implemented.

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How did you do this?

Are you talking about the blank spacers? Check out this post: BETA: Craft your own experience with Personal Sections on tvOS and iOS - #160 by jamesrw

Tend to use channelsDVR for recordings. Handles interlaced TV very well and supports subtitle styling with DVB_teletext which is huge for me. The commercial detector and editor is also really easy to use so hard to go to other DVRs after using channels.

Probably 50/50 between plex and channels for personal media. Plex has features like auto intro and credits skip and is very easy on the eye in terms of UI. I don’t mind the purple but would like a bit of a freshen up for channels.

And at this stage with user profiles, there’s no choice and I share my media via plex with my immediate family, and they in turn will use plex for any live tv they require.

Some niche tv shows also don’t match very nicely in channels which can be annoying but since implementing tmdb for tv shows I can seem to sort it out eventually.

Would love to go full time CDVR for myself and family but really need user profiles and to a lesser extent, intro/credits skip and a freshen up of the ui (or themes).

Can’t see myself cancelling my sub any time soon though! Well worth the money and I hope it helps the devs develop all our missing features rather than going down other avenues of profit due to lifetime memberships (plex).

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I meant the collections. Was that manual?

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I have been using Channels as a one-stop shop. I have an HD Homerun for my locals.

I also have all of my media imported and created a bunch of virtual channels.

Then have a subscription to Sling Blue and HBO/Showtime from Hulu and use StreamLinks in the guide for the channels.

Finally I have Pluto TV in the guide.

Yep, that's just me manually making collections. From what I understand, Channels had added the ability to group by franchise now, but I haven't tested it yet.

Gotcha. Thanks. It looks good!