BETA: tvOS/ iOS - Stack Movies into their Franchises

[Fofer]

Oh. lol. Figures. Thanks!

[Fofer]

So it appears that TMDB is referring to "Saw: The Final Chapter (2010)" as "Saw 3D (2010)."

Saw 3D

Once I fixed the "incorrect match" in Channels DVR, changing from Gracenote to TheMovieDB, the new "franchise" poster included this title.

[cyberskier]

One possible glitch I noticed on the iPhone beta version is that there are times where the franchise is stacked, and when I go close the app and then open it again, the franchise poster is now a poster and link for just one of the movies. For example, the Avengers poster will be gone, with just the first Avengers movie showing, and no sign of the other movies in the franchise. It's almost like the movie replaced the franchise in the app.

[maddox]

Can you provide a step by step way to reproduce this?

[tsheley]

I have had this happen. I reproduced it by doing this…

1. Open Channels on iPadOS and go to all Movies.
2. Close Channels
3. Bring up Multitasking in iPadOS and select Channels.

[maddox]

Great thanks, we'll check it out.

[Fofer]

@Fofer

Everyone using this helpful feature should also be aware that TMDB's opinion about what constitutes a "franchise" in this context may not line up with their own. For example, according to TMDB, Ocean's 8 is not included along with Ocean's 11, Ocean's 12 and Ocean's 13 in the Ocean's 11 franchise. I do wonder if that's just an oversight on their part, or if they're intentionally considering the 2018 film to be a distinct "spin-off?"

I went down this rabbit hole a little further, this time on the correct site asking the fine folks over at TMDB if they wouldn't mind adding "Ocean's 8" to the "Ocean's 11" Collection?

I was then invited to read this previous content report:

Hi! The collection was locked to prevent users from adding the spin-off to the collection: Overview - Collection Bible — The Movie Database (TMDB)

So, no, it won't be added, but at least now I understand the rationale behind such a decision, and it's a pretty thoughtful one. The way they're using "Collections," they only consider them to include true movie sequels. Their "Collection Bible" explains it all, and foreshadows "a proper 'Universe' feature in the future."

[maddox]

@cyberskier

One possible glitch I noticed on the iPhone beta version is that there are times where the franchise is stacked, and when I go close the app and then open it again, the franchise poster is now a poster and link for just one of the movies.

This should be resolved with the latest TestFlight beta:

tvOS/iOS Beta Notes

v2025.01.10.1546 • FIXED: Movies were being incorrectly stacked/unstacked into franchises in some cases

[babsonnexus]

@Channels2021

I can't be the only one with different qualities of the same film, due to the fact multiple devices handle various formats differently.

You are not, or just duplicates for any reason:

Conditional visibility in Library (if no Stream Link version)

This is more of an overarching issue with duplicate items in the library in general. But your point for source prioritization (and not just the traditional resolution and quality) is a good one that we’ll keep in mind when this is finally tackled.

Channels needs to differentiate when there are 2 or more of the same Movie!

We totally understand this and want to get to a point where we're combining movies, but it's complicated. But we plan to get to it this year. For now, you should have metadata that shows on the movie view. Are you using Android? I think it's not showing some tags, which is incorrect. It should show HD, 4K, Atmos, etc. so that you CAN tell the difference. I'll look into it.

[maddox]

Please keep the thread on topic.

[kthomas1059]

I’m having trouble with the franchises being identified. I’m sure it’s some issue with my library and the way my files have been ID’d in the system but is there an easy/appropriate way to go about fixing it? I have every star wars movie but none are picked up by this feature.

[chDVRuser]

Did you try what @cyberskier posted 10 days ago?
Refresh the metadata on your movies.

[kthomas1059]

I did try metadata refresh and I also went through and switched providers from gracenote to theMovieDB or vice versa. Nothing seemed to work. Sorry for not mentioning in OP.

[chDVRuser]

I'm not using this, but I would think if your 9 Movie Titles match those 9 in the TMDB Star Wars Collection it should work.

[tsheley]

Just wondering when this is going to go into the App Store version?

Thanks

[maddox]

We don't comment on timelines, but it should be soon.

[maddox]

Franchises are now generally available as they were delivered with version 6.2.

Channels 6.2 for Apple TV & iOS