Sometimes after activating a new cablecard install it can take up to a day for the DRM to show up.
They will.
The ones with lines through them can't be tuned by the Prime, so it doesn't know if they're DRM or not.
In my screen capture above, all the Starz channels are DRM, but the ones with lines through them aren't in my lineup and can't be tuned. Like 524.
Id also like the news channels not DRM’d too. But I have TVE ready if they do. If BBC WS News is one, I’m gonna be really mad. Since it’s one of my small 15 choice channels. That’s NOT on TVE.
All I know is it has something to do with the cablecard and the headend.
Whenever I had a cablecard installed in a device (TV's, TiVo's, HDHR Prime, etc.) and had the Provider activate it, I was able to watch every channel, including those not in my sub, for anywhere from an hour to a day.
Time will tell. If none become DRM, do a lot of recording, quick
SiliconDust would be able to answer your question, but as long as you can watch the channel with VLC, Channels DVR web UI or a Channels client, it's not DRM protected.
I'm starting to wonder if DRM only applies if you can even tune to the channel in the first place? With a normal cable box, I could tune to HBO. But it would tell me to upgrade, that I'm not subscribed. Perhaps they don't DRM the a-la-carte package. Time will tell. It might also go DRM when I add the TA.
The Prime won't know if it's DRM until it can tune the channel during its scan.
Try watching the channels you think should have DRM and see if they play.
How do I do that? Those channels are Marked out. I ONLY see those I am subscribed to. I do have some marked out that I DO subscribe to. I am sure the TA is needed for those.
Yep. Those, and all that I subscribe to in my A-La-Carte package. All that are not marked out (minus a few that need the TA), I subscribe to. There are NONE that show up (minus said above) that I get, or could upgrade to. They're just marked out fully. The TA might be what makes the DRM, don't know.
I worked with both legacy Charter and TWC with the Prime (now Spectrum). I always used a tuning adapter (TA) with legacy Charter, because once in a while they would flip a switch on their end and it screwed up a channel on my end (maybe once every 18 months, not very often). I dialed in a system where it was just standard to have the TA - didn't cost a penny and I had 2 primes and 2 TA's.
By the way, congrats for being in the legacy Charter market, it's the gravy train with regard to having TV marked as copy-freely (instead of copy-once like most of the old TWC stuff).
Thanks! Spectrum told me over and over that my lineup won't see DRM. We think it's because my package is a-la-carte. I only see what I subscribe to. I don't even see other channels that only show a black screen. I don't see them in my subscription list at all. Plus with only 15 channels. What is the point of DRM. BUT, if they do DRM I have TVE setup too for recording. This is a stopgap for ABC and a few other OTA ones I couldn't get otherwise. My Channels lineup looks crazy anyway. I have like 5 CBS's. 2 ABC's, etc...
I'm not sure that everyone agrees on what DRM is, but I believe that you have a cable-card to bypass the first level of DRM; encryption. You cable card decrypts the stream and let's you have it.
There is another level of DRM that you can read about here:
The CCI flag is where things get sticky. Anyone with a cablecard and a paid subscription gets a pass on the encryption, but systems vary on how they treat the CCI flag. That's the difference between old Charter and TWC/Brighthouse, the CCI flag. I'm currently with old Time Warner Cable, now Spectrum, so I get a pass on the encryption with a cable card, by everything but my local affiliates are CCI flagged for copy-once, so an HDHomeRun Prime is of no use for those channels (without some serious workarounds). Unless you've decided to go full TVE, you require copy-freely, not copy-once to be useful.
I'm sure this has been described at least 100 times previous to this post, so I apologize for repeating it, but it's a clarification that makes a big difference in the end result.
I'm Legacy Charter/Spectrum. I guess the CCI/DRM Flag I "MIGHT" get a pass on. Or it might come up later when I add the Tuning Adapter, or it just might show up in the channel list. I'm in TVE all the way anyhow. I was recording, and setup with TVE LONG before I got the Prime+CableCard. I got it for the locals mainly. If I get CCI/DRM free streams to Channels, then that's just gravy.
Does anyone know where the DRM comes from with a CableCard setup? I don’t currently have a Tuning Adapter. My channels do not have DRM. The adapter is on its way. My concern is that connecting it will trigger DRM? Is this a valid concern, or is DRM something it would have already had, tuning adapter or not?
DRM is set on the broadcast. As noted earlier you're in a legacy Charter market without DRM. It's not going to randomly become DRM unless they make a change explicitly.