DRM Protected ATSC 3.0 Channels

This is a major pain the rear. I have to constantly babysit this DVR for rogue channels that just show up like a bad dream.

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It's more of a silicon dust issue but if you use channel collections you don't have to worry about it.

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Was never a problem in SageTV, where the DVR was capable of controlling the channels that appear in the channel lineup.

I'll have to look into channel collections - it could work as long as it's a global setting that I can force to all clients so they don't start seeing these new mystery channels.

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I thought Channels detects the DRM flag on the web page and disables the Channels. It does not Detect HBO or Showtime on my Primes.

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Yeah its global. I couldn't get along without channel collections. Even without the ghost channels there are a bunch of channels that I don't want to see (most all of Pluto, some OTA and a bunch of TVE stations). I just put the ones that my family cares about in a collection. Then I reorder it so that it is top on the list in the guide. Everyone is happy.

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That is what I had to do .... for all channels.

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You guys don't have to do ANY of that to stop "rogue channels" from showing up!

When there's a Tropo event that brings in channels from out of your DMA that can't normally be watched for more than the Tropo event time, just go INTO the HDHR's web admin screen, click on "Channel Lineup", look for the rogue channels, and click the clear star in front of that channel TWICE to turn it into a red X!

Now, LEAVE those channels there, forever! They will no longer EVER show up in your guide, and IF there's ever a new Tropo event, they'll continue to stay X'ed out!
Here's an example of mine, once I LEFT them permanently X'ed out, I've never had a problem:

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They keep coming in for me... I play the red X game all the time. It remembers the old ones but as soon as it finds other fringe stations I get another entry...
Frustrating. I want SD to give me an option of disabling scans

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Yeah, it sucks to keep doing that IF you have a lot of Tropo events, (I don't have that many in mid-Michigan, just mostly Detroit coming in from 120 miles) but I'm pretty sure Silicon Dust admin has said there's no way to disable the automatic scanning. Personally, I think it's STUPID that feature is even there. How many changes does a normal DMA have, that auto-channel scans are required every 3 days? Not that many, that's for sure.

That is not the Problem the Some Rogue Channels appear even though they are not on the WEB page of the HDHomeRun device.... so, you cannot disable something that is not there.

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I'll be shocked if we see any sort of solution this year. SDs track record on DRM support is not very good, despite their promises.

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It's all here: Encryption - Silicondust

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From Silicondust ....

We have provisional approval from A3SA for a DRM approach that meets A3SA objectives while allowing customers to watch/record TV. The implementation is under active development right now - both the A3SA and Silicondust parts of the solution.

Encryption - Page 9 - Silicondust

"for HDHR app only" ATM

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It is not even that. SD says they are in discussions for their own DRM implementation. I think SiliconDust is as likely to have their own DRM implementation approved by the A3SA as they are to actually get their long–promised CableLabs certification for DRM recordings.

After a decade of empty promises, SD is all talk without any real action.

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The two are vastly different. There is no comparison.

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I was not comparing the standards.

I was comparing SiliconDust's track record with promising recording for DRM cable broadcasts with their ability to negotiate some new as yet undefined DRM protocol for ATSC3.

Yes, the standards and processes are different and cannot be compared. But SiliconDust's inability to deliver upon previous promises certainly has bearing upon their promise for similar situations in the present.

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I believe this time they will deliver... and they will partner with freecast.

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Terms need to be properly defined here, if this is what you are stating.

As I understand it, FreeCast/FreeView is used to mean OTA signals in the UK received by aerial (DVB-T/2), and FreeSat are for UK–based DVB-S signals.

FreeCast

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