Yeah of course they had to DRM the 112.1 that I was recording because sometimes 12.1 is weak.
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South Bend, Indiana went live with ATSC 3.0 less than a month ago. After being initially unencrypted, 2 of their 6 subchannels are encrypted already (NBC and H&I). One can only speculate how long it will take for the other major networks active on the lighthouse (CBS, FOX, PBS) to follow suit.
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I am confident....very confident...that all ATSC 3.0 signals will be encrypted via DRM.
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This tuner states that it will do DRM ... Silicondust better get Moving.. .
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Apples and Oranges:
Will it allow the recording of ATSC 3.0 content onto an attached USB storage? Does it have DVR capabilities?
At the time of release, the box will not support USB storage or DVR capabilities, but we hope to add those capabilities in an automatic software update.
Can the box be used for multiple TVs simultaneously?
No, the TV box supports 1 TV at a time.
How many tuners does the TV Box have?
The TV Box has 1 tuner that supports both ATSC 1.0 and ATSC 3.0 NEXTGEN TV
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Can we use 2 with Channels DVR for the ability of having 2 tuners available to watch content Live only?
no local streaming
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lol, no. Do you not understand what DRM is?
I have a TV that can do everything that box can do. Since I don't need ATSC3.0 for four more years, I can wait for Silicon Dust to get their solution completed. Since I like Channels DVR, I hope they can utilize Silicon Dust's solution. But since that seems more and more unlikely, I will make do. Unlikely I will be spending $500 to $1000 and many hours of time on HDMI or Chrome Capture for Channels. Could be a great hobby, but not for me.
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Luckily, right now I'm okay without DRM since the local ABC affiliate fixed the problem with their 1.0 signal. However my local FOX affiliate is iffy on 1.0 so I'm currently using their non-encrypted 3.0 signal. I'll have a problem if that changes so hoping SD comes up with support so I can at least watch football were that to happen.
The silence on this issue from the Channels developers is pretty disappointing, to be honest. I know they can't commit with 100% certainty to something that isn't completely defined, but the fact that they haven't even stated that they anticipate doing everything they can to support DRM (SD says they should be able to) is strange to me.
Same here. I'm not going down this hokey path. My goal is cheap TV, so worst case scenario I'll have to use multiple programs for my viewing instead of just Channels.
Them getting involved in this topic can only result in users quote mining them years later when stuff does not work. There are times devs are silent that pisses me off. But on thos topic I would be surprised if they joined any speculative topics.
The devs have also been making great strives to CDVR being more of a content management system and less of a linear tv platform. Especially as things like plex have become more streaming oriented.
The devs seem to have a lot of irons in fire as far as content integration. I think they are trying to figure out what pans out.
TVE, M3U, *.strm, *.strmlnk, hdmi & chrome capture, youtube (m3u), docker stuff (sports stuff and vlc bridges)
So Channels seems to be embracing everything. Then putting there attention where users seem most interested.
I do not use them to manage or watch my Content. Lacking Profiles and too much manual intervention is just not worth it. I only use to Record (Advance Passes) or Watch Remote. So not being able to record or watch DRM is a showstopper.
And with no new Content on Linear TV I am using CDVR less.
I guess it all depends on your viewing habits. I still record to timeshift plenty of stuff. Lots of news for starters and OTA content and Philo content, etc.
That said, if Channels at some point becomes unusable as a DVR for OTA, I'll probably have to move back to HDHR.
The lacking profiles is definitely a huge one. You cannot have multiple watch states of a show. Also seperate profiles would allow you to change sidebar items. Etc.
Since I am talking about lack of features. This has gotten 100% of topic. After this I will go back on topic I promise.
Lack of auto-retrieving missing subtitles. Lack of ability to mix Movies & TV into a single collection. Lack of sort by ganre in TV (it exist in Movies). Lack of magical action by devs to solve drm yesterday.
Back on topic. DRM sucks. Write your congressmen. BOOOO DRM.
Idea: CDVR starts a seperate fundraiser campaign with the goal of attempting to negotiate drm rights. idk. Just spitballing.
But DRM bad. Mmmm kay.
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In my Case they DRM'd 112.1 Fox and my signal on ATSC 1.0 on 12.1 is weak... So I use my primes to record 712.
If Silicon Dust would provide third party access to their soon to be certified system player, so something like Channels does with Stream Links could be done, then Channels doesn't have to mess with DRM at all. You would still lose ability for remote access and unencumbered recordings for those channels, but it might be enough for now.
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You sound like a linear TV addict who does not value time shifting or commercial skipping.
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I am retired and it is 110 degrees outside, so yes I watch some news and occasionally some sporting events live. I do think HDHomerun will still be able to record shows for time shifting, but the recordings will be locked to the device that recorded them. Hopefully skipping forward through commercials will be enabled, just not automatically. So we will not be able to share our recordings with family, friends, and neighbors and the recordings will only be available for the life of the HDHomerun device that recorded them. If I don't like what I can get from ATSC3.0, then I will do something else. I subscribe to Hulu no/ads, Disney, Philo, Netflix, and Prime Video so I have plenty to keep me entertained.
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Once Tablo finally releases their ATSC 3.0 DVR that can handle encryption, I'll be switching to that for OTA instead of Channels. Of course, ATSC 1.0 will still be around for many years now due to FCC's latest news, so who knows what else will be available by then for dvr possibilities.
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I used the earlier Tablo for 3 years. It was the easiest and least expensive way to have DVR for OTA. It also worked with Roku devices. But it was very slow with channels changes, always transcoded. It was just adequate. After I tried HDHomerun tuner with Channels DVR, I will never go back to Tablo unless there is no choice. The Tablo being developed with ATSC3 support may be better, but I am skeptical.
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