DVRDesk a simple Windows and Linux client for Channels

Maybe it's not a feature request. If rebuilding the index doesn't fix the problem but deleting the folder does, then it may be a problem with other files in the folder:

Right, "the index" is probably a simplification of what's actually being deleted. In Channels DVR, the metadata folder alongside a recording typically contains more than just the seek index — things like cached codec/stream analysis, segment timing maps, commercial detection results, thumbnails, and possibly a pre-built HLS segment manifest. When the server does an API "rebuild index" it may only regenerate the seek index file, leaving the other stale/inconsistent metadata in place. Deleting the whole folder forces a clean rebuild of everything from the raw video bytes on next access.

The transcoded stream sidesteps all of it because it re-reads and re-encodes the source file directly, ignoring whatever is in the metadata cache. That's exactly why our fallback works — it's not that transcoding is "better quality" for this file, it's that it bypasses the corrupted metadata entirely.

For this user specifically, the practical takeaway is: our auto-fallback means they no longer need to delete anything to watch the recording, but the underlying metadata corruption in Channels DVR is still there. If they want a permanent fix for that file (seeking performance, commercial skip accuracy, etc.), deleting the metadata folder is still the right move — and since the Channels devs apparently won't expose an API to do it cleanly, it's a manual operation on the server filesystem.

So, if this isn't a resource issue causing something in the metadata folder to be incorrectly written in the first place, there this could be a bug that they need to fix. Or, it's a feature request to provide a mechanism to rebuild all of the folder's contents (or just the problematic part if that can be isolated)

If you care to track this down, try removing one file at a time to see the effect.

The new version is live now

Yah, since they started fingerprinting recordings they changed to API to
PUT /dvr/files/<file#>/fingerprint
Accessed by the Option Reprocess Video
Reprocess Video

It rebuilds the video index.

Incorrect. It does not rebuild it.

As far as the devs are concerned, there is no problem (it becomes a "me" problem) unless others report it, and then it's unsupported because it's not a supported client problem.

It's already in there

Thank You. It's working and falls back to transcoding as you said.
When I delete the video index it has to transcode anyway. Now I don't need to delete the video index (but I will as they are useless to me and just take up space :grin:)

OK, well that's something! Another thing you could do is to move the metadata folder and then compare the old files to the new ones that are created to see what changed. If you can isolate a specific file, and the data in the file that's causing the problem, maybe the devs would be inclined to fix it.

you mean always, or just the first time? If always, what happens if you delete the folder then use the reprocess video command?

It doesn't happen on every recording (just most of them).
When it does happen, if I delete the video index and recreate it, it still fails.
I started noticing this years ago using the DVR web UI player.
I'm surprised nobody else has brought it up (or maybe they didn't spend the time to dig as deep).

the resolution is very odd (nintendo ds?) so it doesn't seem to matter which source the recording was from?

I mainly use dvrdesk for checking live souces, but just now i tried some recordings from different sources and haven't encountered the error. on 1.11.0 and 1.14.0. although both versions transcode recordings from hdhr, while ah4c recordings do the simple remux.

yea, don't really ever expect the web ui to play. haven't payed attention in a long time as to which recordings work and don't.

I though it odd also, but that's supposedly coming from Channels DVR for a recording (not Live).

That one was a 1280x720p@30fps recording from the FrndlyTV channel MeTV+
I've also seen it happen on HDHR Prime recordings from my PBS station ([email protected]).

If you want some stats, let me know what you want me to keep track of when it happens again.

The video index file I'm talking about is named stream.m3u8 in the Metadata/file# folders

the only thing i can think of is just the timing of the recording catching a low res image during a keyframe at the beginning.
otherwise these advance settings come to mind, using any of these?
Experimental Remote Live TV Segmenter
Use HEVC for transcoding
Web Player Adaptive Streaming
I have all these off, so idk

That Video element: 683x384 resolution came from the DVRDesk Copy Report button.
You would have to ask @jay343 where that comes from.

I don't have any Advanced Experimental settings enabled.

so I watched the cdvr log while playing recordings from dvrdesk. ah4c recordings show no entry (remux) and one of my local news recordings shows this

2026/06/14 23:04:11.181178 [HLS] ffmpeg: file41844-ip10.0.0.35:  [mpegts @ 0000021397569980] Packet corrupt (stream = 1, dts = 4922541299), dropping it.
2026/06/14 23:04:11.181178 [HLS] ffmpeg: file41844-ip10.0.0.35:  [mpegts @ 0000021397569980] Packet corrupt (stream = 2, dts = 4922541299), dropping it.
2026/06/14 23:04:11.182822 [HLS] ffmpeg: file41844-ip10.0.0.35:  [mpegts @ 0000021397569980] stream 2 : no PTS found at end of file, duration not set
2026/06/14 23:04:11.183356 [HLS] ffmpeg: file41844-ip10.0.0.35:  [vost#0:0/h264_mf @ 00000213981a5000] -enc_time_base -1 is deprecated, use -enc_timebase demux
2026/06/14 23:04:11.186124 [HLS] ffmpeg: file41844-ip10.0.0.35:  [aost#0:1/aac @ 000002139821e880] -enc_time_base -1 is deprecated, use -enc_timebase demux
2026/06/14 23:04:11.187770 [HLS] ffmpeg: file41844-ip10.0.0.35:  [aost#0:2/aac @ 0000021397572700] -enc_time_base -1 is deprecated, use -enc_timebase demux
2026/06/14 23:04:12.145346 [HLS] ffmpeg: file41844-ip10.0.0.35:  [h264_mf @ 00000213981a52c0] stream format change

I do have a bad antenna signal now that the trees are full of leaves, so many local channels recordings have glitches, and I was hoping it could shed some light. I'll have to see in the morning when the leaves are wet, and pixilation goes crazy.

have you tried copying one into the imports dir and seeing if there's any difference? not sure there would be or what it'd tell us.

If I did that it wouldn't have a video index, so would transcode just like if I had deleted the video index.

Just seems like the CDVR recording timestamp rewriter and remuxing is tuned for the Channels clients (obviously).

I've had to remux some recordings because their recording timestamp rewriter caused timestamp issues.

This has been going on for years, so I don't think anything will get done because I'm trying to play the recordings in unsupported clients like a browser or DVRDesk.

All of the problem recording files play fine in VLC and my Video Editor.