Cause i am considering using it and have valid concern about how it works with channels, what i have to pay for, and if it is any better than what i do now(tor and manual hdmi capture).....why else would i ask about it. there is no playOn user form, the link just says under construction. and also would not be useful since it is integrated into Channels dvr.
Also, no where in the Channels dvr documentations does it note that, what was posted here, that the playon files have hard coded personal info so that when u play them on your Channels dvr, every user of that, some who may have remote access, will see. That is another question of legality. since Channels DVR allows for remote access, technically, is that not a form of distributing that content should you then have multiple users, that is most always the case for such home dvr setups like Channels,plex emby etc. that issue is not addressed in their legal docs on play on...that is the integration of their service into a third party app. so the question is not is PlayOn legal, but is Channels DVR use of integrating it into their own software legal. I don't want to see Channels in legal trouble and end up being shut down. a valid concern.
Does it then mean that if a Channels user allows remote access for others to watch the captured content, that then makes it illegal? Since that is distributing it via streaming to someone else? another valid concern and question user need to know and be informed of. things NOT mentioned in the Why its legal page you keep linking to and quoting or keep saying is the legal reason behind why using torr is illegal.
I mean really...and also it was in the past a negative thing here back couple years ago when many people would ask about it. same as with Channels supporting m3u streams, that was generally frowned upon or dismissed by the devs cause most wanted to use illegal iptv streams and record them, at that time. Its a change in development.
"ut is a DVR software forum the place to consider your possible future violations of copyright law?"
yes. when said software integration is put into legal software that does the same thing as illegal software processes.
"With torrents you have paid for no such license"
As i said and explained, when i PAY for the stream service already, I have the paid license to the content access.....what difference is it if PlayOn rips it (which is paying a third party who makes a profit off it) and puts(or is technically disturbing it to me) as a free to use mp4 file on my server, vs i pull the a recorded file from a torrent or capture it myself with my own hardware. same program content being captured and imported to local dvr.
I can pay for legit Philo streaming service to access say DIY channel legally. But, since Philo does not have the option to record and download the cloud recorded shows to my home dvr, i choose to record the web stream or VOD stream of the channel/program, that i have legal access rights to(since i pay for the legal service of Philo)...so,,,,again, how is it any different with in context to the end result. a recorded .mp4 file from a online stream source that gets put onto my local dvr.
Their explanation as to how they are legal, does not make much sense to me. Nor does most folks response that pretty much skirts around the question or just cop outs with, u no like it, dont use it. Sounds like you are just paying a middle man service to rip said content for you, but they somehow have managed to ride the line of legality when you look at how other processes or services work. So excuse me for being cautious and skeptical about it. regardless of how long they claim to stay in business. The stream platforms always change things and i have read posts about it being unreliable long term and breaking after said platform updates/changes their DRM or such