Network SD Channels not available

Odd behavior. Am remote and trying to access network SD channels. They are in "ALL" and also a collection called "SD Channels". They don't show up. Created a collection called "Network SD" and put ABC,CBS, FOX, NBC into it. When I go to that collection, I get a message that says:
No 1e509d2b-fddc-4d1e-a7c1-c82fb242f886
No channels are currently playing anything in this category. Try another one.

Source is HDHomeRun Prime (cablecard). some (but not all) other SD channels are available. Cable provider is Comcast.

Anyone have a clue?

ADDED - seems like this happened in 2016 and is related to SiliconDust guide