New UK lineups

I noticed in the changelog for the last DVR update that there are new UK lineups, so I decided to have a look. I now get a choice of 3 lineups:

Freeview - North West (GBR-1000040-DEFAULT)
UK - National (GBR-1000118-DEFAULT)
UK (extended) - National (GBR-1000193-DEFAULT)

All 3 of these lineups have varying issues with missing logos and/or channels, which is generally worse than my previous Freeview North West lineup (GBR-0001305-DEFAULT).

Could you provide some detail on what changed and why? And would you like a list of the issues I’m seeing?

Our guide provider has redone all the UK lineups.

The new version of GBR-0001305-DEFAULT is supposed to be GBR-1002765-DEFAULT

What postal code did you use?

Please upgrade to the pre-release by holding SHIFT and clicking Check For Updates. When you enter your postal, a new YouView option should show up.

SK4 4AB is the postcode I used. The Freeview - North West lineup (1000040) is pretty close to the old lineup (and isn’t cluttered with the extra YouView channels you can’t receive with an HDHR anyway), but there are a few logos missing that where there before, as well as a handful of channels that are now missing or wrong.

I’m recording something at the moment, but I’ll update and check out the new old lineup later today.

If you want to make a list of problems with the new FreeView lineup, I can pass that along.

Here’s the issues I see on 1000040:

103 ITV HD: Guide data is ITV HD London (should be ITV HD Granada)

105 Channel 5 HD: Logo is Channel 5 SD (not HD version)

109 Channel 4+1 HD: Logo is Channel 4 HD (not +1 HD version)

110 4seven HD: Logo is 4seven SD (not HD version)

112 QVC Beauty HD: Logo is generic QVC logo

1 BBC One N West: Guide data is BBC One England (should be BBC One North West). Logo is old BBC One version.

3 ITV: Guide data is ITV London (should be ITV Granada)

7 That’s Manchester: Missing (previously guide data was for Made in Liverpool, now neither are provided)

33 ITV +1: Guide data is ITV +1 London (should be ITV +1 Granada)

35 QVC Beauty: Logo is generic QVC logo

75 The Vault: Guide/logo is for Chart Show TV (this is a recent channel change)

80 Blaze+1: Logo is Blaze (not +1 version)

84 Quest Red+1: Logo is Quest Red (not +1 version)

90 TV Warehouse: Logo is missing. Mapping to 94 WAREHSE (this is a recent number change from 94 to 90)

209 POP+1: Logo is POP (not +1 version)

210 Tiny POP+1: Logo is Tiny Pop (not +1 version)

700, 707, 708 (BBC Radio stations): Logo is generic BBC Radio logo

701, 702, 703, 704, 706 (BBC Radio stations): Logo is missing

714 Kisstory: Missing

716 heat: Missing

719 BBC Manchester: Missing

720 BBC Lancashire: Missing

721 BBC Cumbria: Missing

722 BBC Merseyside: Missing

734 BBC Stoke: Missing

I looked at the new 1002765 that is meant to replace 0001305: Lots of similar new issues with logos and missing/incorrect channels, though not exactly the same as the list above.

Most of the issues you listed have been fixed (or will be in the next 24hrs)

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Thanks, I’ll have a look tomorrow

I’ve given it a few days, and most of the issues are resolved. Here are the things I’m still seeing:

103 ITV HD (Granada): now missing
115 BT Showcase HD: now missing

7 That’s Manchester: still missing
33 ITV +1 (Granada): now missing
34 ITV3+1: now missing
74 The Store: now missing
77 TCC (Community Channel): now missing
85 Hochanda (JMLHDIY): now missing
203 CITV: now missing
714 Kisstory: still missing
716 heat: still missing
719 BBC Manchester: still missing

Hi, just checking if there have been any updates on the missing channels:

103 ITV HD (Granada): missing
115 BT Showcase HD: missing (but appears without a channel number)

7 That’s Manchester: added today as THMANUK, but has no listings
33 ITV +1 (Granada): missing (but appears without a channel number)
34 ITV3+1: missing (but appears without a channel number)
74 The Store: missing (but appears without a channel number)
77 TCC (Community Channel): missing (but appears without a channel number)
85 Hochanda (JMLHDIY): missing (but appears without a channel number)
91 Now XMAS: missing (just added)
92 Now 80s: missing (just added)
203 CITV: missing (but appears without a channel number)
714 Kisstory: missing
716 heat: missing
719 BBC Manchester: missing

Edit: Just wanted to add that all these channels were correct on the ā€˜old’ lineups with the exceptions of 7, 91, 92, 714, and 716. Also, I’m still seeing slightly different sets of missing channels with the Youview and UK Extended lineups.

What does ā€œappears without channel numberā€ mean?

Sorry, I could have phrased that in a better way. I mean that it appears in the channel lineup but it doesn’t have a channel number so it has to be mapped manually.

Can I get a list of just the high priority missing channels? Stations like kisstory are not available in the providers database, and when I send them a huge list they just waste a lot of time trying to find them.

For stations you were able to map manually, make a separate list and include the correct station id. You can find it by visiting http://127.0.0.1:8089/settings and looking for the channel override value. Since these are already in their database they should be the easiest to fix.

  • 103 ITV1HD Granada: missing (3 ITV1SD Granada (ITV1GRA) is available so creating an HD version for Granada should be possible. ITV1HD London (ITV1HDL) is in the lineup and can be manually mapped)
  • 7 That’s Manchester: available but guide data just shows ā€˜That’s Manchester’ all day
  • 33 ITV1 +1 Granada: missing (ITV1 +1 London (ITVP1LN) is in the lineup and can be manually mapped)
  • 54 My5: wrong listings (shows CH5MY5F, which doesn’t show correct listings. National extended lineup shows CH5MY5, which has the correct listings)
  • 91 Now 80s: missing (recent addition)
  • 92 Now 90s: missing (recent addition)
  • 719 BBC Manchester: missing (all other BBC local radio ARE available: 720 Lancashire, 721 Cumbria, 722 Merseyside, 734 Stoke)

Okay I have submitted these to our provider.

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Hope this gets resolved as not being able to click on a programme in the guide and have the pop up box with record options is a pain, as we have to look for the programme on ITV+1 or search for it and then click record.

The only other ā€˜issue’ I have is not being able to view the guide without losing the buffer, and I think I read that this is an Apple TV limitiation?

Other than that it’s been the perfect replacement for our Virgin TiVo box :grinning:

Any update on this? And if changes are made would I have to rescan for it to work properly again?

I just heard that this has been fixed. Try clicking the refresh circle icon under your hdhomerun.

Great, hang on, just waiting for the new guide data to download…