Passes showing future airing of show as already recorded?

I've noticed some shows that haven't recorded that were expected to. An example, this past Monday's Daily Show didn't record nor does it show that a failed recording happened, yet is recording Tuesday through Thursdays.

I started looking at the passes and noticed some odd things. This is the most obvious issue, the next 2 weeks shows of The CBS Sunday Morning show is showing as already recorded and thus not scheduled to record even though in the episode it shows it as "new" and the date stamp for the show is in the future.

Not sure if this is a new bug, known bug, or user error somehow, but happy to share more info to help eliminate the issue.

Thanks.

Edit - And Tonight Show and WSOP showing similar issues, except instead of recorded just doesn't have it set to record.

Adding log in case the Devs have a chance to look into this.

e583fc64-74a2-4bbc-98f3-83b562a9ad9b

There were unfortunately a bunch of hiccups with our guide provider earlier in the week

Just tried WSOP and it's showing it will record


I am having the same issue, I am trying to record ABC news - it recorded 3 episodes then showed the next future airdates as recorded.

Checked today and now this Sunday's CBS Morning show is showing recording queued but the following Sunday as recorded?

For CBS News Sunday Morning
You can check to see which ones Channels DVR thinks it recorded and tell you which recording it is.
For the 9/21, 9/28, 10/5 and 10/12 airings, look at http://127.0.0.1:8089/dvr/programs
Substitute the IP address and port of your DVR server
Search the JSON results for these program ID's, which are the 9/21, 9/28, 10/5 and 10/12 airings
EP000191281754
EP000191281755
EP000191281756
EP000191281757

It will tell you whether it was recorded, skipped or queued to record
Examples;

"EP000017620837": "skipped",               Airing was Skipped
"EP000017620878": "recorded-410",          Airing recorded to file 410
"EP000031631077": "queued-1759377600-103", Airing queued to record

For recorded, you can then look at the file 410 to see what it is
For queued it's the unix epoch time to start recording - rule# (pass)

Thanks for the above. Couldn't find any of those 4 program ids (curious where you find that info for future reference?) but I did find this:

  "CBS News Sunday Morning/47166e144771399012feb760975b5ccdcac5db08d8bbcc41f11c5d0dddb8e45d": "recorded-25931",
  "CBS News Sunday Morning/582234bc5ead7ef416f39c6217fe0fd01b9cf7ac23aca540407f0789b7308522": "queued-1759064370-196",
  "CBS News Sunday Morning/5b70a5e5283f959ff8d033d3150468a7c64b69f14c544981238e0b3d509d433a": "recorded-25364",
  "CBS News Sunday Morning/6813459bf0886d4403a45fd6dd38298b9abb29c09f58156754128ffba101488d": "recorded-25865",
  "CBS News Sunday Morning/6c4712ebb1ae9b539ff77c9cc1edd86dcf1508fbe2424b7b4a632d474d559510": "recorded-25330",
  "CBS News Sunday Morning/740d6279cd8758d50dc9de09e1053c8a665dcbf4253bb30dbfa5c9b5e3422ce0": "recorded-25817",
  "CBS News Sunday Morning/7415ab14744caadac3802b845285033bf6add2c1ed4f1a7474d694546771c1e0": "recorded-25450",
  "CBS News Sunday Morning/7c793cb925211dcd8996b01b53941c1d8fff582660fce9d91af218be81c53d24": "recorded-25495",
  "CBS News Sunday Morning/7ddf4c18e872915b1c68394aa9a35c00f2b78141f83b0f7d2609f1e6d860bd66": "recorded-25663",
  "CBS News Sunday Morning/85e93b65046ff2fb96eb1966f95540ad3c5f69adf5a2d9e29711ca1ce7775ee5": "recorded-25020",
  "CBS News Sunday Morning/91520ce749f48baf50caa1a93e73d757dd21900177c4bfc2dd13dbea6970ba1e": "recorded-25589",
  "CBS News Sunday Morning/9eac02288030d8c9ebcf31e0e5ba4f8c74c72b36567741c9092036a10d7ae820": "recorded-24867",
  "CBS News Sunday Morning/a2e7f3e340c0750cf8afa7ffa920b22b7e9fb5534dbda10c11b18cc4f123b58e": "recorded-25189",
  "CBS News Sunday Morning/b59de160bd5d231b6b0ca981833f775b2bc5492f1d8bbe9d8637e8bf8cfc69e5": "recorded-25118",
  "CBS News Sunday Morning/d1babf0fcbceb69760f4789f4a232d4160578912d4456d0df0cc6b38c89f0fa2": "recorded-25259",
  "CBS News Sunday Morning/d6f486421d8fd904708e8bed222f3310ef3765801f3e0042c5cc1c42cf914961": "recorded-26007",
  "CBS News Sunday Morning/fdc224e7e7f54bb31f6ab1c0700a8c27652f40b4c5d6138bc5ccadd68a2175b8": "recorded-25397",

I did find several thousand text strings similar to what you showed above, just don't have those 4 in my output.

What is your source for CBS News Sunday Morning and can you post the advanced tab of that pass.
It appears your source isn't using gracenote guide data.

I use my browser network inspector to see the raw data returned by Channels DVR when it displays the search results for the airings of the show

If you have a pass and scheduled recordings you can also get the ProgramID from the the scheduled jobs at http://127.0.0.1:8089/dvr/jobs (or use the DVR web UI, API & Feed Explorer for Jobs)

  {
    "ID": "1759064400-855",
    "Name": "CBS News Sunday Morning",
    "Time": 1759064400,
    "Duration": 5400,
    "Channels": [
      "713"
    ],
    "Channel": "",
    "DeviceID": "",
    "RuleID": "855",
    "Serial": 1758991541,
    "FileID": "",
    "Skipped": false,
    "Failed": false,
    "Dead": false,
    "Error": "",
    "Airing": {
      "Source": "tms",
      "Channel": "713",
      "OriginalDate": "2025-09-28",
      "Time": 1759064400,
      "Duration": 5400,
      "Title": "CBS News Sunday Morning",
      "Summary": "Actors Keanu Reeves and Alex Winter; singer and actress Jennifer Lopez; members of The Zombies.",
      "FullSummary": "Actors Keanu Reeves and Alex Winter; singer and actress Jennifer Lopez; members of The Zombies; David Kaczynski; Eli Sharabi; crickets; Calder Gardens in Philadelphia.",
      "Image": "https://tmsimg.fancybits.co/assets/p28692973_b_h9_aa.jpg?w=720&h=540",
      "Categories": [
        "Episode",
        "Series"
      ],
      "Genres": [
        "Talk",
        "Newsmagazine"
      ],
      "Tags": [
        "CC",
        "HD 1080i",
        "HDTV",
        "New",
        "Stereo"
      ],
      "SeriesID": "185497",
      "ProgramID": "EP000191281755",
      "EpisodeNumber": 37,
      "Cast": [
        "Jane Pauley",
        "Mo Rocca",
        "Keanu Reeves"
      ],
      "ReleaseYear": 2025,
      "Raw": {
        "startTime": "2025-09-28T13:00Z",
        "endTime": "2025-09-28T14:30Z",
        "duration": 90,
        "channels": [
          "713"
        ],
        "stationId": "21214",
        "qualifiers": [
          "CC",
          "HD 1080i",
          "HDTV",
          "New",
          "Stereo"
        ],
        "program": {
          "tmsId": "EP000191281755",
          "rootId": "30711074",
          "seriesId": "185497",
          "entityType": "Episode",
          "subType": "Series",
          "title": "CBS News Sunday Morning",
          "titleLang": "en",
          "episodeNum": 37,
          "releaseYear": 2025,
          "releaseDate": "2025-09-28",
          "origAirDate": "2025-09-28",
          "descriptionLang": "en",
          "shortDescription": "Actors Keanu Reeves and Alex Winter; singer and actress Jennifer Lopez; members of The Zombies.",
          "longDescription": "Actors Keanu Reeves and Alex Winter; singer and actress Jennifer Lopez; members of The Zombies; David Kaczynski; Eli Sharabi; crickets; Calder Gardens in Philadelphia.",
          "topCast": [
            "Jane Pauley",
            "Mo Rocca",
            "Keanu Reeves"
          ],
          "genres": [
            "Talk",
            "Newsmagazine"
          ],
          "preferredImage": {
            "uri": "https://tmsimg.fancybits.co/assets/p28692973_b_h9_aa.jpg?w=720&h=540",
            "height": "540",
            "width": "720",
            "primary": "true",
            "category": "Banner-L1",
            "text": "yes",
            "tier": "Season"
          }
        }
      }
    },
    "UpdatedAt": 1758991542798
  },

Thx for this - I found the XML for my ABC news - its weird I checked the Passes->Matches screen and 4 matches all reporting recorded.

here is the xml

[
  {
    "ID": "1759098600-ch9000",
    "Name": "ABC World News Tonight With David Muir",
    "Time": 1759098600,
    "Duration": 1800,
    "Channels": [
      "9000"
    ],
    "Channel": "",
    "DeviceID": "",
    "RuleID": "",
    "Serial": 0,
    "FileID": "",
    "Skipped": false,
    "Failed": false,
    "Dead": false,
    "Error": "",
    "Airing": {
      "Source": "xmltv:m3u4u",
      "Channel": "9000",
      "Time": 1759098600,
      "Duration": 1800,
      "Title": "ABC World News Tonight With David Muir",
      "Summary": "The latest news from America, as reported by the ABC television network.",
      "SeriesID": "ABC World News Tonight With David Muir",
      "ProgramID": "ABC World News Tonight With David Muir/fd25fa7d56df78f84488f0ea23baa6c510804850272674610fec717926a7a80b",
      "Raw": {
        "xmltv": "\u003Ctv generator-info-name=\"m3u4u\" generator-info-url=\"https://m3u4u.com/\"\u003E\n\u003Cchannel id=\"WABC.us\"\u003E\r\n\u003Cdisplay-name\u003ENY | New York | ABC 7 WABC\u003C/display-name\u003E\r\n\t\u003Clcn\u003E9000\u003C/lcn\u003E\n\u003C/channel\u003E\n\n\u003Cprogramme start=\"20250928223000 +0000\" stop=\"20250928230000 +0000\" channel=\"WABC.us\"\u003E\r\n\u003Ctitle lang=\"en\"\u003EABC World News Tonight With David Muir\u003C/title\u003E\r\n\u003Cdesc lang=\"en\"\u003EThe latest news from America, as reported by the ABC television network.\u003C/desc\u003E\r\n\u003C/programme\u003E\u003C/tv\u003E"
      }
    },
    "UpdatedAt": 1758890161709
  },
  {
    "ID": "1759185000-ch9000",
    "Name": "ABC World News Tonight With David Muir",
    "Time": 1759185000,
    "Duration": 1800,
    "Channels": [
      "9000"
    ],
    "Channel": "",
    "DeviceID": "",
    "RuleID": "",
    "Serial": 0,
    "FileID": "",
    "Skipped": false,
    "Failed": false,
    "Dead": false,
    "Error": "",
    "Airing": {
      "Source": "xmltv:m3u4u",
      "Channel": "9000",
      "Time": 1759185000,
      "Duration": 1800,
      "Title": "ABC World News Tonight With David Muir",
      "Summary": "The latest news from America, as reported by the ABC television network.",
      "SeriesID": "ABC World News Tonight With David Muir",
      "ProgramID": "ABC World News Tonight With David Muir/fd25fa7d56df78f84488f0ea23baa6c510804850272674610fec717926a7a80b",
      "Raw": {
        "xmltv": "\u003Ctv generator-info-name=\"m3u4u\" generator-info-url=\"https://m3u4u.com/\"\u003E\n\u003Cchannel id=\"WABC.us\"\u003E\r\n\u003Cdisplay-name\u003ENY | New York | ABC 7 WABC\u003C/display-name\u003E\r\n\t\u003Clcn\u003E9000\u003C/lcn\u003E\n\u003C/channel\u003E\n\n\u003Cprogramme start=\"20250929223000 +0000\" stop=\"20250929230000 +0000\" channel=\"WABC.us\"\u003E\r\n\u003Ctitle lang=\"en\"\u003EABC World News Tonight With David Muir\u003C/title\u003E\r\n\u003Cdesc lang=\"en\"\u003EThe latest news from America, as reported by the ABC television network.\u003C/desc\u003E\r\n\u003C/programme\u003E\u003C/tv\u003E"
      }
    },
    "UpdatedAt": 1758890163862
  }
]

You're using m3u4u to generate the EPG XML.
It's not giving you a unique identifier for each episode airing

"ProgramID": "ABC World News Tonight With David Muir/fd25fa7d56df78f84488f0ea23baa6c510804850272674610fec717926a7a80b",
"Raw": {
  "xmltv": 
  "<tv generator-info-name="m3u4u" generator-info-url="https://m3u4u.com/">
    <channel id="WABC.us">
      <display-name>NY | New York | ABC 7 WABC</display-name>
      <lcn>9000</lcn>
    </channel>
    <programme start="20250929223000 +0000" stop="20250929230000 +0000" channel="WABC.us">
      <title lang="en">ABC World News Tonight With David Muir</title>
      <desc lang="en">The latest news from America, as reported by the ABC television network.</desc>
    </programme>
  </tv>"
}

so Channels DVR thinks they're all the same episode and assigns them the same ProgramID
Once it records one of them, the rest (with the same ProgramID) will not be recorded, because they appear as duplicates.

recommend a better way to edit playlists? to cut down a playlist being brought into channels. thx for the help

1 Like

Just stop using their EPG and manually map your channels to use the built in guide data. Third party EPG is usually sub-par, and it almost never has the data Channels expects, which gives you the best experience.

Thx Maddox - I was using my providers EPG - just was using m3u4u to clean up the playlists - I will have a look to see if I did something wrong.

1 Like

Sorry, was traveling a lot the last couple of weeks so just having time to sit down and try and work on this again.

All my guide info comes from Channels. I have a CDVR (Backend) fed into Threadfin to enable me to modify logo and channel numbers, and then feed that back into another CDVR (Frontend) where my extenders and passes are scheduled from.

Here's the feed from the Backend CDVR to Threadfin:

#EXTINF:-1 channel-id="21.1" tvg-id="21.1" tvg-chno="21.1" tvg-logo="https://tmsimg.fancybits.co/assets/s28711_h3_ba.png?w=360&h=270" tvc-guide-stationid="30783" tvg-name="WHPDT" group-title="Favorites",CBS
http://192.168.0.2:8088/devices/ANY/channels/21.1/stream.mpg?collection=1&format=ts&codec=copy

And here's the M3U from Threadfin to Front End Channels DVR:

#EXTINF:0 channelID="x-ID.2" tvg-chno="2" tvg-name="CBS" tvg-id="2" tvg-logo="https://res.cloudinary.com/dndea4kmd/image/upload/v1757686808/tv-logos/jwqoaz6vl1j8jghke5kf.png" group-title="Favorites",CBS
http://192.168.0.2:34400/stream/91dbf5cafcf0a6861b637fb59b771751

The Guide info comes through the XML file. I searched through the Threadfin XML file and came up with this:

<programme channel="2" start="20251012130000 +0000" stop="20251012143000 +0000">
          <title lang="">CBS News Sunday Morning</title>
          <desc lang="">News, features, weather and commentary.</desc>
          <category lang="">Episode</category>
          <category lang="">Series</category>
          <category lang="">Talk</category>
          <category lang="">Newsmagazine</category>
          <episode-num system="onscreen">E39</episode-num>
          <episode-num system="tms">EP000191281757</episode-num>
          <icon height="" src="https://tmsimg.fancybits.co/assets/p28692973_b_h9_aa.jpg?w=720&amp;h=540" width=""></icon>
          <credits>
              <actor>Jane Pauley</actor>
              <actor>Mo Rocca</actor>
          </credits>
          <video>
              <quality>HDTV</quality>
          </video>
          <date>20251012</date>
          <new></new>
      </programme>

And this is the guide info from the Backend Server to Threadfin:

<programme start="20251012130000 +0000" stop="20251012143000 +0000" channel="21.1">
    <title>CBS News Sunday Morning</title>
    <desc>News, features, weather and commentary.</desc>
    <category>Episode</category>
    <category>Series</category>
    <category>Talk</category>
    <category>Newsmagazine</category>
    <icon src="https://tmsimg.fancybits.co/assets/p28692973_b_h9_aa.jpg?w=720&amp;h=540"></icon>
    <series-id system="tms">185497</series-id>
    <date>20251012</date>
    <episode-num system="onscreen">E39</episode-num>
    <episode-num system="tms">EP000191281757</episode-num>
    <new></new>
    <credits>
      <actor>Jane Pauley</actor>
      <actor>Mo Rocca</actor>
    </credits>
    <video>
      <quality>HDTV</quality>
    </video>
  </programme>

Here's the screenshot of the advanced tab and still seeing "recorded" on future episodes:


This needs to be corrected
channelID="x-ID.2"
Channels DVR needs that to be
channel-id="x-ID.2"
Refer to Channels Support - Add Custom Channels with M3U Playlists

Okay
Look at your DVR endpoint /dvr/programs and see if EP000191281757 appears in it.
i.e. http://127.0.0.1:8089/dvr/programs
If so, what does it show, queued or recorded?

Examples

  "EP023465150482": "queued-1761256800-46",
  "EP023465150535": "recorded-3084",

Don't think I can manipulate the output of Threadfin. I can try installing a newer version to see if that is a bug that has been fixed. Will work on this weekend.

In terms of searching for that program ID, couldn't find it in the programs link:
image

Look at the file json for the last one it recorded and see what the ProgramID is
DVR > Manage and find the Recording
Options > View Details
Click on the underlined File ID number
Example
"ProgramID" : "EP042863690262"

Only thing I can find in the JSON file (I think that's what I am searching through) is:

  "CBS 21 News at 11/20250927030000 +0000": "recorded-26134",
  "CBS News Sunday Morning/47166e144771399012feb760975b5ccdcac5db08d8bbcc41f11c5d0dddb8e45d": "recorded-25931",
  "CBS News Sunday Morning/582234bc5ead7ef416f39c6217fe0fd01b9cf7ac23aca540407f0789b7308522": "recorded-26153",
  "CBS News Sunday Morning/5b70a5e5283f959ff8d033d3150468a7c64b69f14c544981238e0b3d509d433a": "recorded-25364",
  "CBS News Sunday Morning/6813459bf0886d4403a45fd6dd38298b9abb29c09f58156754128ffba101488d": "recorded-25865",
  "CBS News Sunday Morning/6c4712ebb1ae9b539ff77c9cc1edd86dcf1508fbe2424b7b4a632d474d559510": "recorded-25330",
  "CBS News Sunday Morning/740d6279cd8758d50dc9de09e1053c8a665dcbf4253bb30dbfa5c9b5e3422ce0": "recorded-25817",
  "CBS News Sunday Morning/7415ab14744caadac3802b845285033bf6add2c1ed4f1a7474d694546771c1e0": "recorded-25450",
  "CBS News Sunday Morning/7c793cb925211dcd8996b01b53941c1d8fff582660fce9d91af218be81c53d24": "recorded-25495",
  "CBS News Sunday Morning/7ddf4c18e872915b1c68394aa9a35c00f2b78141f83b0f7d2609f1e6d860bd66": "recorded-25663",
  "CBS News Sunday Morning/85e93b65046ff2fb96eb1966f95540ad3c5f69adf5a2d9e29711ca1ce7775ee5": "recorded-25020",
  "CBS News Sunday Morning/91520ce749f48baf50caa1a93e73d757dd21900177c4bfc2dd13dbea6970ba1e": "recorded-25589",
  "CBS News Sunday Morning/9eac02288030d8c9ebcf31e0e5ba4f8c74c72b36567741c9092036a10d7ae820": "recorded-24867",
  "CBS News Sunday Morning/a2e7f3e340c0750cf8afa7ffa920b22b7e9fb5534dbda10c11b18cc4f123b58e": "recorded-25189",
  "CBS News Sunday Morning/b59de160bd5d231b6b0ca981833f775b2bc5492f1d8bbe9d8637e8bf8cfc69e5": "recorded-25118",
  "CBS News Sunday Morning/d1babf0fcbceb69760f4789f4a232d4160578912d4456d0df0cc6b38c89f0fa2": "recorded-25259",
  "CBS News Sunday Morning/d6f486421d8fd904708e8bed222f3310ef3765801f3e0042c5cc1c42cf914961": "recorded-26007",
  "CBS News Sunday Morning/f0a520f8015b0a26a759dbd20fe744465e9863f1c47d100f143a1277aea5c77d": "recorded-26223",
  "CBS News Sunday Morning/fdc224e7e7f54bb31f6ab1c0700a8c27652f40b4c5d6138bc5ccadd68a2175b8": "recorded-25397",

Also found this in the View Details, File ID 26223 hyperlink under the lone recording I still have in my library:

"root":{
"ID":"26223"
"JobID":"1759669170-196"
"RuleID":"196"
"GroupID":"CBS News Sunday Morning"
"Path":"TV/CBS News Sunday Morning/CBS News Sunday Morning 2025-10-05-0859.mpg"
"Checksum":"wR_0nlpCuOQMtRO9esYLnAneG7oG1Lp-YDK-UD0WKfA"
"CreatedAt":1759669170
"FileSize":5326558112
"Duration":5460.259566
"Commercials":[
0:0
1:49.42
2:302.67
3:454.86
4:857.9
5:950.09
6:988.86
7:1110.71
8:1662.87
9:1748.79
10:2203.71
11:2333.27
12:2493.7
13:2644.85
14:2809.68
15:2931.63
16:3383.65
17:3503.24
18:3700.74
19:3899.37
20:4280.81
21:4565.5
22:5082.12
23:5219.32
24:5291.99
25:5460.06
]
"Completed":true
"Processed":true
"Airing":{
"Source":"xmltv:Threadfin - 1.2.35"
"Channel":"2"
"OriginalDate":"2025-10-05"
"Time":1759669200
"Duration":5400
"Title":"CBS News Sunday Morning"
"Summary":"Miley Cyrus; Cat Stevens; Daniel Day-Lewis; Ronan Day-Lewis; celebrating Broadway's George M. Cohan."
"Image":"https://tmsimg.fancybits.co/assets/p28692973_b_h9_aa.jpg?w=720&h=540"
"Categories":[
0:"Series"
]
"Genres":[
0:"Episode"
1:"Talk"
2:"Newsmagazine"
]
"Tags":[
0:"New"
1:"HD"
2:"Dolby Digital"
3:"CC"
]
"SeriesID":"CBS News Sunday Morning"
"ProgramID":"CBS News Sunday Morning/f0a520f8015b0a26a759dbd20fe744465e9863f1c47d100f143a1277aea5c77d"
"Cast":[
0:"Jane Pauley"
1:"Mo Rocca"
2:"Miley Cyrus"
]
"ReleaseYear":2025
}
"ChannelNumber":"2"
"DeviceID":"M3U-Threadfin"
"UpdatedAt":1759674965112
"Version":22
"JobTime":1759669170
"JobDuration":5460

I'm not sure why you're getting that type of SeriesID and ProgramID
It doesn't match the tms/gracenote SeriesID and ProgramID

It does appear that Threadfin XML has the tms/gracenote ProgramID

But it's not passing the tms/gracenote SeriesID through, so maybe that's why?

@tmm1
Ideas?