Double satip:// issue is a bug. I fixed it for the next prerelease.
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Thanks it’s all working with satip:// now!
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Thanks for sharing this. I’m curious how Docker is working now with Apple Silicon M1. It’s still in tech preview, so I haven’t introduced it to my Mac mini system. I’m eager to get Custom Channels up and running, but I’m willing to wait until Docker is production ready for Apple Silicon.
Hi Everyone
Just been reading through the posts above and finally decided to get a Kathrein EXIP 418 box. I have a SKY 'Smart' LNB which is model number EL010. I did think I had a 'hybrid' LNB but found out with a bit of googling that there is a subtle difference. The 'Smart' LNB does NOT have any specific connectors for a wideband connection as opposed to the newer hybrid LNB's that do have two separate connections for wideband and four other connections on them for non wideband mode (not sure what the name for it is!).
I thought seeing as my old sky box which required a wideband signal worked through this LNB there would be no issue with hooking up this EXIP 418 to it and changing it to wideband. It looks like there is an issue however as I am down to eliminating all other possible causes and its pointing to the LNB not being compatible. The box has no issue receiving a stream request as the blue light starts flashing when a channel is selected however I am not getting any 'lock' when I view the tuner status. I am starting to think that it would have been better to have a standard 'hybrid' LNB with two separate wideband connectors on itself or just a standard wideband LNB head. The reason I had the hybrid LNB at the time was that I still wanted to retain freesat in some of my rooms and have the wideband box in another room. The only way is to get a hybrid LNB at the time but it looks like this could be the reason why my EXIP 418 is not working with it.
Any suggestions?
Thanks guys and keep up the great work - it really looks like a great system.
Just an update to my post above..
Connecting the Kathrein EXIP 418 box to a hybrid LNB with a wideband connection setup in the Kathrein is simply not possible. I thought I was going to have to change my LNB over which would be a pain due to access.
Anyway that to @bakerboy we connected up four of the cables coming off this LNB to the 418 box and changed the settings to quad mode, After this we had success with 8 tuners all locked on at the same time and no messing around changing the cables around for the correct polarity. Either I lucked out with the correct order or the LNB I have is doing this work for me.
So if anyone has a sky hybrid LNB model number EL010 then it will work but NOT in wideband mode. As explained above I think it’s only sky boxes that have the correct connection with the LNB to tell it to go into wideband mode but not a kathrein box.
Is there any downsides to using this box in quad mode as opposed to wideband? Cant see any yet...
All,
I'm not sure whether this is helpful or not... A few users have messaged me about needing updated channels list files (m3u) for their SAT>IP servers to work within Channels DVR (mainly UK Freesat).
As satellite channels, transponders etc are regularly updated, I have created a Facebook group to provide regularly updated channel lists, allowing users to download & import the updated channel list file into the Channels DVR server. Hope this helps.
Currently I can provide for Astra 28.2 (UK Freesat) and Astra 19.2 (Germany). At some point in the future I will probably be able to provide additional channel list files for Hotbird 13e & also UK terrestrial (freeview).
Please note these are Free To Air (FTA) channel lists only. You will need to edit the files accordingly with the IP address of your SAT>IP server.
Please also note that these are updated channel list files ONLY - To ensure SAT>IP users (like me) can keep their channel lists up to date within the Channels DVR server. I am NOT offering any form of free IPTV.
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I see you are running the Kathrein EXIP 4124 in Wideband mode. What LNB are you using for that? Specifically, do you know if this works with a Sky Q type wideband LNB?
I know Sky are a bit 'non standard' with their LNB, but since that's what I have installed, was hoping the Kathrein can make use of it.
--update--
Just checked and looks like I have the 'Smart' LNB (EL010) so looks like I need to replace that to work with a Kathrein box. A relatively small additional cost compared to the price of the 4124.
A more general question.
Mostly I see SAT>IP compatibility in reference to Channels DVR, but what about the Channels Apple TV app though - or is that assumed. I use the Channels app to receive live TV from an HDHomeRun Quad tuner, no DVR involved. Am I now able to also use that view live TV from a SAT>IP server?
If so, how does that work for EPGs etc? The channels I'm interested in are broadcast on both, at the same time, so in theory the same EPG could be used, but how do the channels from different tuners map to the Guide?
Or is that irrelevant as the Channels app on its own cannot access SAT>IP?
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The regular Channels app only works with hdhomerun
Any chance this will change?
Thanks for very rapid response BTW.
Nope
Is anyone still using sat>ip with channels? Was reading about some upcoming changes with freeview in the UK (losing channels etc) so thought I would give this a go again.
I grabbed the channel list from Channel Lists - SATIP and it seems to work ok - don't think the channel list is up to date though.
Anyone recommend a good channel list which doesn't require much messing around with? Is satip:// the recommended method now too?
Hi,
I do use Sat>IP with Channels, channels by far is the best interface with all the familiar features and a good few more. I was worried about de-interlacing and thankfully the developers have great support, for me it looks better than any set top box I've ever used.
Regarding channel listings, I tried with the one you mentioned however I had issues with channels not working so I spent far too much time gathering my own data and making my own channel listings and matching the format I found from @imx (thank you!) m3u I found on GitHub:
I found the channels and PIDs required on https://en.kingofsat.net
I did use the satip:// method and it's working very well for me.
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Yep - using channels for almost 3 years now with Sat>IP, the box sits in the loft and ‘does its thing’. Very few issues generally, hence the lack of activity from me here 
I’m still using TVHeadEnd (which I’ve been using for 5 years probably, with OSMC front ends before Channels) as the Sat>IP interface, then export the m3u from there into channels. TVHeadEnd gives me a number of advantages, easy channel scanning being one.
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I would love to use TV headend. Correct me if I’ve got the wrong idea of the software - I got the impression it could be the server for multiple SAT>IP interfaces (say if I had more than one tuner unit?) and it would serve to the client, plus the ability to scan and export an m3u quickly - is this right @imx ?
I’ve found the software very powerful but in my limited time I had to setup I wasn't able to work it out to do the above - did you have a play or have any good references you’d suggest?
TVHeadend can aggregate multiple sources, yes. You can map the different sources/inputs to the same 'physical' channel, then set a priority. All of this is transparent to Channels, because it's just reading the m3u - the tuner allocation, sharing etc is controlled in TVHeadend.
My Sat>IP box exposes 8 tuners, by connecting 4 cables to the dish it can run a 'regular' 4-cable Quad LNB as a Quattro LNB - so it can record from 8 different muxes at once. TVheadend will also do Mux sharing, so for example BBC 1 and BBC 2 are on the same mux so this only uses 1 tuner to record/play/view both of these channels at once.
You cadd the Freesat/Astra 'Network'
Assign the Network to one/all of the tuners in my first screenshot:
The muxes/services should then populate, after the scan completes.
To get a basic channel setup, you can use the 'Bouquet' option - enabling the required Bouquet, all the Freesat bouquets start with 'England HD: xxxxx' the 'BSkyB' are paid-for-sky. The correct regional channels and a (reasonably full?) channel list should be generated.
.... to be honest I then disabled at least 50% of the various channels, changed the numbering/ordering to make more sense. Along with adding in Channel 4HD, which is not (still?) available on actual Freesat.
Then add the TVHeadend m3u export to Channels:
http://x.x.x.x:9981/playlist/channels.m3u
Although you do need to create a '*' access entry, to disable authentication in TVheadend. I don't consider this to be an issue, as everything runs in a dedicated Media VLAN, but you can restrict this by IP/subnet anyway if you wish.
...but it gives you a start anyway.
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Thank you, that’s amazing 
I will give this a go.
Which tuner do you use?
One of these:
https://www.megasat.tv/en/produkt/sat-ip-server-3/?lang=en
I think they are EoL, I picked up a spare some years ago on eBay. Although someone else (perhaps on this thread?) had one that they had issues with, but mine has been rock solid.
Any issues, I think, usually come down to the network and in some cases the NIC on the TVH/Channels server, as it's UDP by default.
On an old box I used to run it all on, I had dropped packets when the CPU scaled
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That’s great - even better as I have already fully setup tvheadend and have it in a sleeping docker. I’ve used it for years with kodi but it never was truly accepted by the family - channels is.
Will spin it back up and add the URL into channels
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