We recommend having a channel-id with unique value for each entry, so the dvr can keep track of when channels move around.
If you can email some example m3u files from your setup to [email protected] I will see how to improve the situation without having to modify the files.
Wow, holy mother. I haven't used CHannels in a while and I suddenly see that @tmm1 changed attitude towards Sat>Ip solution, what a nice surprise I have to say. The reason from the beginning Me among others asked about such integration is that having such feature inside Channels DVR UI seems to be more in place that custom remote access app for such tuners which vary in experience and quality, just to say watching and recording stuff via WebIF interace is terrible and inferior to channels.
Custom m3u support is also a nice surprise, I tried to reverse engineer how Channels handle HDHomeRun tuners to develop virtual version of those not affiliated with xteve or Telly (If I wanted play Go I would go to Japan 
) but didn't have much time to get some results 
which is a pity because I wish I extracted channels stream links from online tv service of my cable operator.
Most of the reason for that beside integration in one UI is recording stuff. Channels can record as many stuff at once as server can handle which is superior to any crap boxes polish satelite or cable operators offers.
@neild7744 you are the guy I searched for because your setup is the same as I imagined once in my head but I gave up after reading to much about polrisation,transpoders, unicable, converters, multiplexers - seems for me very complicated solution 
3 satelites means 3 converters right? what kind of converters each? do you use unicable? to record stuff you need I assume 2 cables from each converter + 1 cable from terrestial if you want, so how it end up in 2 SAT IP servers at the end? Could you draw some schema for those of us walking in the fog?
for the record I only testes Zgemma H9 combo and Octagon SF8008mini Combo but these are crap, as I assume they don't include FBC satelite head just the standard DVBS2-X one.
But overal good work tmm1 and maddox and rest of the team, nice to see that user 'pressure' brings us to superior solution over Plex 
No problem. Il email you the m3u file I'm currently using in the next couple of days.
3 wideband / unicable lnbs on 1 dish offset to the weakest satellite. 2 sat ip servers. 1 sat ip server in wideband setup takes 2 lnb feeds from astra 28.2 sky UK and gives me 24 tuners available on my home network. The second sat ip server takes 2 feeds per lnb set for hotbird 13e and 19.2 also in wideband setup via a multiplexer connected to a triax tss sat ip server. This gives me 4 additional tuners. Add the hdhomerun dvbt boxes for terrestrial and I can merge the lot into 1 single m3u list for 3 x dvbs and 1x dvbt. I think in total across satellite and terrestrial I have a total of 36 tuners available on my network lol. Insane. The idea is that I can series link lots of tv shows and just let the libraries build up. This is where channels dvr comes in as it's much more slick imo for focusing on live and recorded TV. The ability to easily series link and setup recordings plus with the added artwork etc channels dvr provides is quality imo. Plex is glitchy for me, kodi works OK but the series link is crap, emby is good, but slow channel changes and other glitches... Channels dvr just seems to work. Zgemma is crap imo. Tried that. IPTV = has a lot of illegal stuff (not interested in that) and the links regularly fail or links are rubbish quality. Essentially channels dvr supporting m3u for me just allows all this sat ip equipment to be utilised so I can stream and record as much FTA TV as I want... With the added bonus of receiving FTA channels from Europe if I want.
I'd start at the basics. Get a dish up with a unicable or quattro lnb fitted, get a sat up server and have a play. It's difficult to explain everything, but once you start with the basics, once 1 sat up server is configured, you can just add additionals onto your network. No messing about with loads of satellite cables, tuner cards, long cable runs etc, configuring drivers etc. Pretty much plug and play. The hardest part I found was configuring software to get everything communicating.
My next little job is to get a rack mounted cabinet in my garage so all this kit can be properly installed
The only additon for me to make channels dvr meet my needs 100% would be to have the ability to record movies and let me watch a movie trailer. I know this isn't really sat ip related, but the ability to record a movie and for me to save a local movie trailer which channels dvr can detect and show a 'watch trailer' button before playing a movie would be epic. I have asked about this on another post on the forum. I'd love it to be implemented. I don't need channels dvr to fetch the movie trailer or link to a YouTube trailer etc... Just the ability to detect a trailer within a movie directory similar to what plex, kodi and emby does. I record quite a lot of movies and use other software to parse the recorded file, get all the meta data, artwork and download a trailer. At the moment I'm recording movies, then having to go onto imdb or YouTube and search for a trailer. It works OK, would just be better for me if it was all available in channels dvr. The sat ip side of thinks has allowed me to add more FTA movie channels which is awesome.
Hey, thanks for informative answer. I share similar attitude for recording stuff but have no possibility at the moment and not everything is on VOD unfortunately.
Speaking of tuners, I had a problem with returning tuner to seller because he didnt want to give me refund. I had to warn him that he is selling illegal stuff as box have Kodi preinstalled, and it worked and got my money back
(there was already some court sentence,however only in US I assume that selling boxes with preinstalled Kodi with IPTV plugis is illegal).
So as you say, I don't need Kodi because Apple TV and Infuse are much better. With proper smartDNS (I use Getlifx) it;s amazing how much free content is available from UK. I also have access from a friend to one illegal IPTV service but almost never use it, it is nice to have some reserve backup option if you want to watch sport event that is nowhere broadcasted in your country. In Europe this may be more and more the case e.g. Athletic championships in Berlin was broadcasted by Eurosport, but only in Poland (imagine faces of lot of polish people living in UK). As long as broadcasters will do such thing, there always be a demand to circumvent dumb restrictions but that is another story,
many ENigma2 tuners are cheap because people buying it only for Kodi or for ccline from shady Chinese providers and they are not intrested in legal broadcast from satellite
If I could share broadcast with someone I would rather with my family who cannot get decent satellite reception so the idea of Sat>IP is very compelling.If they could work with operator cards like Sky and gives access to VOD libraries it would be even better.
My friend uses Slingbox to have access to his Freesat box but Dish announced all Slingboxes stop working around 2022 so alternate solution is necessary.
I think I give Channels another try with TVP Kultura 2 stream, would it be possible for you to share tuner/IP link for TVP Dokument? (Hot Bird 13e) and Sky Arts? They should both be FTA now.
For those using tvheadend (like me), this generates an m3u:
http://IP_ADDRESS:9981/playlist
A snippet below:
#EXTM3U
#EXTINF:-1 logo="http://192.168.0.109:9981/imagecache/98" tvg-id="1c33a303dd5dc100c82d9bec8adccf39" tvg-chno="101",BBC One HD
http://192.168.0.109:9981/stream/channelid/61027100?profile=pass
#EXTINF:-1 logo="http://192.168.0.109:9981/imagecache/403" tvg-id="b7afb8c4f7c39c37935e9d949735e76c" tvg-chno="102",BBC Two HD
http://192.168.0.109:9981/stream/channelid/1152954295?profile=pass
I've not tried it yet (as my subs expired), but I will do soon
Has anyone had any luck with 4K/UHD over SAT>IP? There are 2 UHD demo channels on Astra 28.2E at 12441 V, 29500, 8/9, DVB-S2, QPSK.
The video format is HEVC 3840x2160 50 fps. They play perfectly fine for me in VLC and in Channels on the iPhone, but in Channels on the Apple TV they skip frames like crazy. EDIT: Also play perfectly on my Fire TV. It's just my Apple TVs that seem to have the issue.
This is more of a novelty at this point, as I doubt there will be any real 4K FTA content anytime soon, but I'd still like to get it working.
I've read this thread and did some searches. Can someone explain, simply, what this is and does?
Gives you the ability to use sat->ip tuners in Channels, as an alternative to Hdhomerun.
Does it work with experimental deinterlacing or experimental video driver?
Can you email a tuner capture to support
What is the advantage to this? Does it still use a regular antenna?
It is for users in Europe with satellite dish.
I wonder why no providers in the US offer packages via sat>ip. It seems like it would be a good alternative to cable or internet.
Because the broadcast/satellite and cable/telco lobbies have done their job, and the American landscape for competition is now pretty barren.
Oh the swamp. Got it thanks.
Experimental video driver changes the output from a stutter to looking like slow motion. Deinterlacing options don't make a difference. I'll send you a tuner capture.
Instead of using hdhomerun to receive dvbt, put it onto a network and let channels dvr manage and stream terrestrial, sat ip does the same thing but for dvbs, allowing people to watch satellite TV using channels dvr.
The advantage it has over hdhomerun imo is that you can receive more FTA tv, and can also use a wideband setup - so 24+ tuners from 1 satellite dish lnb connected with 2 cables into 1 sat ip box. Gives you the ability to do a serious amount of recording / streaming of live TV. The m3u option also allows you to merge terrestrial TV and satellite TV into 1 list and map everything using channels dvr server.
The more I read about sat>ip the more impressed I am with the concept.
Yeah i think its pretty good TBH. A few years ago when i fist came across SAT>IP i took a gamble and bought a Triax SAT>IP server from Germany. I didnt expect it to be that good - Previously i had been using PCIe DVBS tuners in my HTPC at home. I kept having issues with the PC cards, seemed like a lot of money, loads of cabling needed etc so taking a gamble on the Triax SAT>IP server certainly paid off. They have been 100% reliable & have allowed me to basically put all my FTA satellite channels onto my home network and use pretty much any device to watch & record live TV. I got a bit carried away with things TBH. I later discovered the new "unicable" / "wideband" support on newer SAT>IP servers so spent a lot of money on a Kathrein SAT>IP server which has provided me with 24 tuners available on my home network with only 2 cables needed from the satellite dish via 1 lnb. Its pretty insane. Ive had 9 or 10 TV shows simultaneously recording whilst also being able to watch live TV with no tuner conflicts. My partner (who doesnt live with me) also watches & records live TV through my setup - So that way we can both setup TV show / movie recordings whilst both watch live TV independently. Running things through Channels DVR allows us to watch a recorded TV series at each others houses...etc. The flexibility is great! Recently ive upgraded my HDD storage so now running approx 8tb storage for TV shows & movies.
In addition i did offset my satellite dish & had 3 lnbs setup on 1 single dish so could receive signals from 3 separate satellites & create 1 FTA m3u channel list... So things like FTA music, movie & entertainment channels all get merged into 1 list. I've even managed to integrate 2 x HDHomerun QUATRO boxes into the setup with SAT>IP so that i can also get additional FTA channels from UK terrestrial TV working.
The hardware side of things (for me) is now pretty much complete. Im just in the process of finishing off a 19" rack build in my loft & have a small 19" rack on order for the satellite equipment mounted off the back of my garage.
The software side of things has been the biggest headache. I've experimented with a few different pieces of software & all seem to have positives and negatives (i think i mentioned this in my earlier post). A lot of TV server backends for me turned out to be glitchy / unreliable. Software such as Kodi has plenty of options, loads of artwork etc and i did use this for a while... but the simple ability to series link tv recordings and getting everything setup to process & store recorded TV and movies proved to be a chore. Plex is unreliable & glitchy, Emby is ok, but again I had issues with playback, shows not recording etc. This is why i have come back to Channels DVR. The software seems much more stable & reliable. Its intended purpose / focus for recording live TV is what i want & the ability to record loads of tv + structure it into shows / seasons / episodes is great. For me, id rather have this working reliably than setting up something that displays lots of nice artwork, ratings etc... but isnt actually reliable. each to their own i guess.