Sat>IP support

Sorry was too quick! Trying 0923 now!

It works! Tried 2 channels concurrently. Fantastic!

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Il give this a try later.

Let me know if you end up with a redundant Kathrein SATIP box.

Hi folks. I've just had a play with this latest release using my Kathrein EXIP 418 and it's working great. Using my browser on my Windows laptop, I was able to stream 8 channels at the same time and they were all really smooth. Huge thanks to @tmm1 and the channels team for their fantastic support and collaboration with the community!

I now just need to get my iPhone / iPad working, which both report 'Tuner Not Available' when trying to view a channel. I'd like to get these working before investing in an Apple TV to complete my setup. Is anyone else struggling with this?

@neild7744 - we spoke about 10 days ago regarding the Sky Q LNB compatibility with the Kathrein box. Seems my problem was simply the firewall on my laptop. After disabling the firewall, both VLC and DVBViewer are working great with the Kathrein and the Sky Q 'EL021' LNB. Obviously this isn't a recommended solution for anyone reading - I need to check which ports satip uses and open just those necessary.

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Please submit diagnostics from the app after the error

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Hi. I should have got back to you - after we spoke about the sky q lnb issue, I did some testing on my setup and found the exact same issue as you. My firewall prevented successful tuning.

On another note... Ive just bought an apple TV box and now have it running with Channels DVR. I wanted to try it out as the channels dvr app seems further developed on ios. So far it's working well... Arguably better than my amazon fire tv boxes. The channels dvr app is much more developed, provides more TV show info, more options for customisation and channel playback seems quicker. I like it.

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I am also interested to learn how you go from the ini file to the rtsp urls with the pids

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This seems a more accurate and up to date site to get the information, I’ve noticed some differences in things like the dvb roll. No way to download them though, a big manual effort!

https://www.satindex.de/tv/13/3/

Can anyone confirm if subtitles/closed captions are working?

I get subtitles from my SAT>IP streams, but you have to make sure you have the correct PID included in your URL string. There are separate PIDs needed for video, audio and subtitles (amongst other things).

Here is an example URL for BBC1 HD on Astra 28.2:

http://[X.X.X.X]/?src=1&freq=10847&pol=v&ro=0.25&msys=dvbs2&mtype=8psk&plts=off&sr=23000&fec=34&pids=0,1,16,17,260,5400,5401,5402,5403

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Thanks for that. Yes I was trying to get it going using PIDs with telly but was having no luck. Will try with this method.

Interesting, my PIDs were different for BBC1 HD. I had 0,17,18, and plts=on! Where do you get the information on the Freesat channels from as every site seems to have different information? Very challenging without being able to tune on the sat ip device.

I get my tuning information from here: https://en.kingofsat.net/freqs.php?&pos=28.2E&standard=All&ordre=freq&filtre=Clear

The initial PIDs (0, 1, 16, 17) were taken from my old TVheadend setup which would auto-scan the transponders and set up services/channels for what it finds. I'm not 100% sure what those initial PIDs do; some combination of them is needed to get channels to tune, but obviously they can differ! The important channel-specific PIDs are PMT (260), video (5400), audio (5401 [eng], 5402 [nar]) and subtitles (5403).

I think plts and ro can vary as well but they don't seem to affect tuning for me. All my channels have the same settings for those values.

EDIT: Just did some testing in VLC and those initial PIDs seem to pull in information on what else is broadcasting on the same transponder. The only one of those PIDs that seems to be essential is 0. Without 0 I could still tune the channel but some of the other PIDs I specified (like 5403 for subtitles) were missing. This is just an example with BBC1 of course; not sure if it holds true for all channels.

iPad and iPhone are working well for me now - I needed to use the beta releases from http://getchannels.com/beta. Thanks to the team at channels for helping with this.

A new pre-release build will be available shortly with some improvements to the SAT>IP integration. The SAT>IP client code has been revamped and should be much faster, which will result in quicker tuning times.

I am also working on contributing all these improvements back to the ffmpeg project, so in the future ffmpeg (and projects which use ffmpeg like Kodi, Emby, Plex, etc) will all be able to talk to SAT>IP servers more reliably. The patch I have sent to ffmpeg-devel is available here: http://ffmpeg.org/pipermail/ffmpeg-devel/2020-December/273910.html

Finally I'm making a list of SAT>IP boxes which nave been tested with these improvements. Here's what i have so far, if you're using a device not on the list please let me know so I can add it:

- Kathrein EXIP 418
  (https://www.kathrein-ds.com/en/produkte/sat-zf-verteiltechnik/sat-ip/227/exip-418)
- Kathrein EXIP 4124
  (https://www.kathrein-ds.com/en/products/sat-if-signal-distribution/sat-ip/226/exip-4124)
- Megasat MEG-8000
  (https://www.megasat.tv/produkt/sat-ip-server-3/)
- Megasat Twin
  (https://www.megasat.tv/en/produkt/sat-ip-server-twin/)
- Triax TSS 400
  (https://www.conrad.com/p/triax-tss-400-mkii-sat-ip-server-595256)
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Ok, I have resubscribed to try this out after starting this topic 2 years ago :slight_smile:

I have a digibit r1 which presents an m3u on IP:8080/m3u - but this m3u is for 19.2, rather than 28.2 (which is what I need). Does anyone know how to generate a UK 28.2 m3u? I currently use the r1 via tvheadend (which can generate an m3u, but that points at tvh rather than the sat-ip server)

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Unfortunately you have to put it together yourself unless your SAT IP box generates one (some provide an M3U or XML file). Good starting point which you can enter directly in channels is

https://www.satip.info/Playlists/ASTRA_28_2E.m3u

and to refine use King of Sat lists or

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Thanks - so just find and replace on sat.ip and then testing?

Yes you can just search and replace with your local IP. However I think Channels also does this for you.

Ok, I got it working :slight_smile: Surprisingly easy.

However, playback on my iPhone fails (I'm using latest beta from TestFlight). Sat-ip server shows it streaming, but iPhone hangs on loading video (I can see a still). How can I trace the problem?