BETA: Enhanced Commercial Detection

enhanced commercial detection provides more accurate cuts between the skip and the show. It does not detect commercials per say. What it does is use AI to emulate the edits that some members who edit commercials to be a cleaner cut. This means you see less of the commercial just before or after the skip.

Windows 10, I hope you are only using this computer as a Channels DVR server and if you are that you purchased extended service.

If you edit the commercials for an episode in question the editor will tell you how the two styles of commercial detection performed in comparison to each other.

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@eric does enhanced commerical detection work for TVE channels that have automatic detection? If not can they also be included? Reason that I ask is becuase i am using adbtuner more and more. I recorded something on discovery (non TVE) and the enhanced detection was pretty bad.

does enhanced commerical detection work for TVE channels that have automatic detection?

No, Enhanced Commercial Detection runs after Standard Detection finishes (comskip), so if comskip did not run (as is in the case with the TVE automatic detection), Enhanced Detection will not run.

Reason that I ask is becuase i am using adbtuner more and more. I recorded something on discovery (non TVE) and the enhanced detection was pretty bad.

Sorry, I'm having trouble understanding how these things are related. Can you clarify?

I meant that I recorded a show on Discovery using adbtuner and not TVE. The commercial detection was pretty bad. I was trying to figure out why. Could it be that most of the recordings for discovery were not edited due to automatic commercial detection? I've been editing the segments, do you know if there will be an enhanced detection update soon?

It's possible, but we also have a lot of HDHomeRun recordings and I assume many would be from Discovery, so that would be covered. One of the biggest differences/downsides from HDMI-capture-based solutions is that they do not capture Closed Captions, which could be impact the quality.

I'll see if I can roll out a new model in the coming week.

With the new Enhanced Detection, is there a post processing way to cut the commercials and compress the resulting file to an MKV? Like there's an EDL that can be exported and processed elsewhere?

Since I keep most recordings as library, I've been using MCEbuddy for my cuts and also compress the file to save space.

Settings - Advanced - Integrations Advanced settings for other video software

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Thanks. I figured that out. Wasn't sure if the EDL would contain the enhanced detection markers, and it seems it does. I'm going to have to rethink my workflow, but this new editor is going to save me tons of time.

Hi, I frequently have issues with commercial detection of ABC World News. The program does not follow a standard timing. Channels DVR frequently misses commercials, or cuts out too much. I have opted in to the enhanced detection and started submitting edits for the last few days. The issue I'm having is that the sections it allows me to mark are not granular enough. One section could contain both the program and commercials. How can I split it up more in order to provide accurate edits?

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An update to Enhanced Commercial Detection has been released as 2026.03.06.1408. You can press "Check For Update" under Enhanced Commercial Detection to install it.

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It's working even better now, and I've set the default to Enhanced. I am however skewing the success stats a bit by ignoring the part of Guidance for Commercial Editing about not including end credits and "on next week" segments. Sometimes I want to see the names of minor guest actors, and I always want to watch the next episode previews

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I would like to echo sdschramm's comments about the granularity of the blocks available to select in Re-Edit Commercials. Tonight I watched Monday's episode of American Idol using the beta version of the iPad app on a Mac mini while doing other things on the Mac. Many of the commercial cuts included about 30 seconds of ads before getting to the cut, so I would go over to Re-Edit Commercials to make an edit, but in all cases, the ad portion was grouped in with the main program and I was not able to make an edit to report. There was a single edit that I was able to report when a few seconds at the beginning of the program were missed.

It's interesting that sdschramm complained about ABC World News and American Idol is also on ABC. I have not noticed this issue on other networks. I do not record much from ABC, so I will make a few other ABC recordings to see if this is specific to ABC in general. By the way, I am using two HDHR Extend tuners for my captures and my ABC station is KGO in San Francisco.

I did read the link posted above about using LosslessCut get more granularity, but I have not tried using it. It is not clear to me that edits made by LosslessCut and shared would help improve Enhanced Commercial Detection.

It's working well for me on three ABC dramas on KGO, so maybe it's just ABC news and reality shows that it's having problems with. It also does well for me with 60 Minutes and a drama on CBS, but sometimes struggles with a CBS talk show though that is much improved now. Aside from PBS (no commercials), I'm not recording much else now since cancelling cable.

I looked at a recording of Jimmy Kimmel Live! from last night and the cuts were perfect. Toward the end there was a large commercial block with a 23 second preview of guests coming next week in the middle of the commercials, and Enhanced nailed it while standard commercial detection marked the whole thing as being part of the program.

I do have a feature request for the Edit Commercials UI. Would it be possible to freeze the top frame to make it easier to compare Enhanced and Standard edits? It would be nice to scroll down and compare edits without having to continually scroll back up to toggle between Enhanced and Standard. Alternatively, perhaps everything in first frame could scroll off the screen except the Enhanced and Standard buttons.

Another option would be to have a "compare" option that would show what each method identified.

@DavidP Go and edit the commercials to be what you see as accurate, then hit Save. Once you've done that, when you select Enhanced and Standard it'll show you an additional icon next to each segment that tells you what you picked so you can see what is accurate vs what they selected (in green).

We understand this is a problem with the current situation. Right now we've decided to live with the segmenting that comes from comskip, but we understand the limitations and hope to improve it some time in the future.

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