BETA: Smart Commercial Detection for TVE & Pluto

Commercial editor now works with the new detector.

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Is there any documentation on how to use this?

I assume that if a segment is check-marked it plays, and if not check-marked it doesn't play.

What is the difference between "Local" and "Local (With Edits)"?

It shows 3 frames from the show. Are these first, middle, and last, or something else.

Results so far:

Discovery and Science are much better.

Fox News is somewhat better, but still not great.

Correct. Green is show, gray is ad. There is a legend/summary at the bottom.

The latter means you edited the results.

Yea it shows 25% 50% and 75%. The first and last frame are usually black so they're not shown.

Fox news doesn't use the new detector.

Currently it is working on:

  • all discovery stations
  • all pluto channels
  • cnn
  • espn
  • nfl
  • some free streaming channels like buzzr

I will keep working on adding support, but it looks like it is not possible to implement for these:

  • ABC, including disney, freeform, ngc, fx
  • FOX, including fox sports and fox news
  • NBC, including bravo, syfy, and other nbc.com/live stations
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I’ve had a bunch of videos from BBC America in the last two weeks where no commercials were detected. Is it possible this was related. I haven’t watched the videos tbh just went in to try and edit them and got the error retrieving commercial message. I’m noticing that in the logs the episodes that I get that error message for have a new [ADS] in the log, which is different. But other videos on the same channel get the regular comskip stuff. So I’m not sure if it’s related or if there is another issue.

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I greatly appreciate all the improvements you have made and all the work you have done, but Fox News and Fox Business are still showing some 98% static screens with no sound, saying a commercial break is in progress. These usually show up at the end of the break after other commercials have already played. They seem to last between 15 seconds and 60 seconds. I think there are 3 different versions of them.

Catching these would not come close to a total fix, but would be greatly appreciated.

Channels Server V 2021.12.31.0318 on windows

Recorded Paul McCartney - A Musicares Tribute

The log shows commercials were detected yet not showing commercial breaks on the time line with Android player V 4.0.1 and also not skipping.

2022/01/01 00:00:00.006016 [DVR] Starting job 1641013200-ch9105 Paul McCartney - A Musicares Tribute on ch=[9105]

2022/01/01 00:00:00.372333 [TNR] Opened connection to M3U-STIRRthenewFreeTV for ch9105 Qello

2022/01/01 00:00:00.382713 [DVR] Recording for job 1641013200-ch9105 from M3U-STIRRthenewFreeTV ch9105 into "TV\Paul McCartney - A Musicares Tribute\Paul McCartney - A Musicares Tribute 2022-01-01-0000.mpg" for 1h32m59.9939837s

2022/01/01 00:00:00.463360 [IDX] Generating video index for job 1641013200-ch9105

2022/01/01 01:33:00.066314 [MTS] Statistics for "TV\Paul McCartney - A Musicares Tribute\Paul McCartney - A Musicares Tribute 2022-01-01-0000.mpg": skipped=0 unhandled_packets=0 discontinuity_detected=26 transport_errors=0 invalid_pts=0 invalid_dts=0 saw_pcr=true saw_pmt=true highest_pts=5594.018633

2022/01/01 01:33:00.140742 [ADS] Detected 12 commercial markers in file-822: TV\Paul McCartney - A Musicares Tribute\Paul McCartney - A Musicares Tribute 2022-01-01-0000.mpg

2022/01/01 01:33:00.277344 [TNR] Closed connection to M3U-STIRRthenewFreeTV for ch9105 Qello

2022/01/01 01:33:00.283022 [DVR] Finished job 1641013200-ch9105 Paul McCartney - A Musicares Tribute

2022/01/01 01:33:00.345066 [DVR] Processing file-822: TV\Paul McCartney - A Musicares Tribute\Paul McCartney - A Musicares Tribute 2022-01-01-0000.mpg

*** Regenerate video index

2022/01/01 12:17:50.067076 [IDX] Generating video index for file-822: Paul McCartney - A Musicares Tribute 2022-01-01-0000.mpg

2022/01/01 12:19:18.127618 [IDX] Finished video index generation for file-822 in 88s

*** No improvement so doing Redetect Commercials

2022/01/01 12:28:55.708063 [DVR] Running commercial detection on file 822 (TV\Paul McCartney - A Musicares Tribute\Paul McCartney - A Musicares Tribute 2022-01-01-0000.mpg)

2022/01/01 12:41:56.949697 [DVR] Commercial detection for Paul McCartney - A Musicares Tribute 2022-01-01-0000.mpg finished with 12 markers in 13m1.2777608s.

*** This time the commercial skips are working

Morris

@tmm1 any thoughts on adjusting the commercial skip options to allow for a skip setting for the new commerical detection recordings vs comskip?

What I would want to do is require manual skipping for comskip but auto skipping for the smart detections.

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The science channel?

It works on science.

I had a bunch of videos from Comet TV record through TV Everywhere yesterday. They all say they detected ads, none of them will let me edit the commercials unless I redetect using Comskip. So if the new ad detector is letting us edit commercials, it is hit or miss at this point.

If you update to prerelease then yes you can edit them.

Would regional NBCSports channels be included in this category? I have some upcoming Warriors games I could test against, assuming it would be worth the effort.

Looks like your pin fell out.
https://community.getchannels.com/t/beta-smart-commercial-detection-for-tve-pluto/30389/2

It would be really great if there was a user controlled parameter for no sound=commercial. 0=As is now. >0 = the number of consecutive seconds of no sound to declare the segment a commercial.

During shows, even when nobody is talking there seems to always be some background sound, but the static "commercial in progress blocks" (at least on Fox News/Business) have zero sound.

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We record Fox business news in the mornings and the commercial detection doesn't show properly with the android tv app, but if I watch on the web the commercials are indexed correctly.The server is running the latest beta v2022.01.04.2130 and the android tv is up to date.

Commercial detection and marking was flawless this morning on 3 CNN shows after being nothing but frustrating with comskip, so kudos!

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