Easy way(s) to move off TV Everywhere?

[jator]

@Fofer

@jator

but I see the continued deterioration of Channels best value prop, a one stop shop to funnel all your content through. And if something happens to Fubo, my solution falls apart quickly.

From my perspective, Channels best value prop is increasing because it allows us the flexibility to switch between providers, from YouTube TV to Fubo to Philo and/or Sling, etc. along with a myriad of ways to integrate thousands of other channels from other streaming sources via Custom Channels while still retaining our recorded and organized video library locally where we have complete control and customizability. While it is a little complicated to get the ingredients set up at first, the end result is the most adaptable, best-in-class live TV and DVR experience.

For the casual user who just wants to "plug and play", CDVR has become more dependent on customized, 3rd party solutions (FuboProj, HDMI, Chrome Capture, etc). These are less dependable as there are multiple handoffs happening to make everything work. For the tinkerer, that's ok. For the person who relies on this for his wife, mother, and a friend, I get a lot more calls about something not working than I did 2 years ago (Chrome updating itself has often times broken things).

So yes, it does offer a lot of variable solutions and in that sense offers a lot of flexibility, but that flexibility has been created as work arounds to the "plug and play" solution that CDVR was when TVE was first adopted and "just worked" on almost all channels offered by the streaming service.

Once FuboProj goes offline (at some point you have to assume they will change something that will break it), I'm likely going to have to move back to the streaming app for family and friends. Even for me, using Fubo app with HDMI capture, on occasion you need to keep your streaming box remote handy so you can click your profile. Heaven help me if it did that while recording one of my wife's shows.

But I will revise my statement, for the casual user CDVR's value is becoming harder to justify.

[Joke]

Are you suggesting moving back to cable itself, or some sort of cablecard based solution?

I would do cablecard if it's an option. Does anyone know if any NYC cable services still support cablecards?

[Joke]

Thanks, I'll probably give this a shot.

Do you have a sense of the best place to start for getting a fresh install of Fubo project going? I skimmed the thread you linked, and it seems to span a variety of phases in the life of the project (including the originator saying he's not supporting it, but some folks "rescuing" the files). I'm not quite sure where to look to get going with it.

[Flt505]

Yes.
CDVR is not quite set it and forget it, it's for tinkers IMHO.
User wants this below, that's cable to me.
"I'd like a new solution that's set it and forget it, that gets me basically all of the old school OTA and basic cable"

[Joke]

You seem committed to misrepresenting my request. For the second time, you've snipped out the part where I noted a key ability is to store as much as I want. Unless cable providers have recently added an external storage option, that's not the solution I'm looking for.

And to be clear: Yes, I'm aware cable is an option. If it gave me what I wanted, I wouldn't be asking here. I've been using Channels for 3+ years now, and would like to stick with it.

[Fofer]

@Joke

Do you have a sense of the best place to start for getting a fresh install of Fubo project going?

For me (a total newbie to this stuff) the easiest approach ended up starting with Portainer and OliveTin, which includes the Fubo Project under the “Project One-Click” section. I’d recommend starting there and asking questions if you get stuck.

OliveTin for Channels: An Interface for Misc Channels DVR Scripts & Tricks

I've been working on a Channels DVR specific version of the OliveTin project. The idea is to make this a central interface for the various scripts people have developed, and miscellaneous tricks that require Python, cURL, jq or whatever. I'll build and maintain the container, including whatever dependencies are required for your favorite script or command line magic for Channels DVR. Here are some screenshots of a few things I have running so far, just to give you an idea of what's possible. I'…

[Fofer]

@Joke

Unless cable providers have recently added an external storage option, that's not the solution I'm looking for.

I’m in the same boat.

It’s also worthwhile to note that both YouTube TV and Fubo promise “unlimited DVR storage space” however, that’s a bit misleading because tof their DVR recordings are cloud-based, not yours to edit or keep, and they expire after 9 months.

If you do have an AppleTV though, the ability of the Fubo app to easily manage a 2x2 grid for on-the-fly multiview is really excellent, especially for news and sports junkies.

[Edwin_Perez]

@Joke

Unless cable providers have recently added an external storage option, that's not the solution I'm looking for.

Cable Providers don't but I have 2 Cable Cards and 2 Primes and can record all Channels ... Right now I have over 32 TB allocated to Channels DVR. I have had a Prime tuner since 2012 with Cable card.. Has worked flawlessly ... knock on wood. Of course, this requires a Cable sub .... but others have suggested great alternatives. If I didn't have my Primes I would probably go the Fubo and Friendly TV way.

But the bottom line is it depends on which Channels you care about.

[AeroR1]

Serious post and not gaslighting but this thread is interesting to me to see who here comes up with the best way to rearrange the deck chairs on the titanic.

Lots of cool projects that will ultimately be for nothing. The only unknown here right now is when the titanic will finally sink.

[Fofer]

I don’t get the “it will all be for nothing” argument. I don’t expect anything, in any context, to last forever. Channels DVR allows me to mix and match ingredients somewhat seamlessly, to help weather the storm of our media landscape, as my family and I enjoy movies and TV at home and when we travel. It’s certainly easier to bounce between streaming subscriptions with Channels DVR as a unifying hub and personalized organizer, than it is to switch without one. You'd lose all of your cloud recordings! I also find the unique customization to be really fun.

If at any moment, another service drops, or Channels DVR ceases to be the best interface, I will switch ingredients, and adapt. I’ll move to whatever platform, service or combination thereof that meets my needs best, at that time. Any transition would be pretty seamless because my recordings and organized movie library would still remain mine, to do with as I please. No regrets.

Change is constant. Life is short. Might as well enjoy each day with the best choices and experiences in the meantime.

[jaidenc]

ChannelsDVR + HDHR Prime + Comskip/LosslessCut + Numerous HDDs takes care of the external storage problem for me

[rpaulmerrell]

I love my channels DVR.
Give me the video. signal and i will do what i want with that signal.

[Jean0987654321]

Yeah...it's just TV. I'll get it somewhere else someway if anything falls apart. I'm a sports fan and only care about sports (and Jeopardy and WWE/AEW) so I'll live

[roboskull]

I have Comcast and utilize their cablecards with six HD Homerun Primes for a total of 18 tuners for Channels DVR to use. I really don't need that many tuners all the time but they come in handy when recording a bunch of things, letting them record a little extra at the end and beginning and not having to worry about conflicts.

[jator]

@roboskull

I have Comcast and utilize their cablecards with six HD Homerun Primes for a total of 18 tuners for Channels DVR to use. I really don't need that many tuners all the time but they come in handy when recording a bunch of things, letting them record a little extra at the end and beginning and not having to worry about conflicts.

You willing to "lease" some of those tuners??? J/K

Do you have an antenna HDHomerun as well? I found 30% of our recordings were off OTA channels, so I dropped a Prime way back when to save $3-$5 bucks a month. Not sure I got a return on my investment (antenna, OTA Network tuner), but it was satisfying to take just a little bit way from Comcast bill.

[Jean0987654321]

OTA PQ is superior to Comcrap 9 times out of 10 so getting a HDHR with that functionality and enough tuner can certainly help you wean off of TVE if you're shows are all there.

Getting a Cablecard with your cable provider and a Prime can work too (or Fubo and the fubo bridge + MAX/PlayON or SF)

[Joke]

Yeah, cablecards would be the right solution, if they were available and supported. I'm in NYC, and my understanding is that Spectrum has stopped providing them altogether.

If there's a cable service in NUC which supports new cablecards, I'd like to try it.

[rpaulmerrell]

I would love to seean adapter that supports YTTV. I don't care about their app at all. Just give me the signal.
We can dream!!!! oh well.

[Jean0987654321]

I think Cablevision, RCN and FIOS still sell Cablecards but it's been a while since I live in that area

[rpaulmerrell]

The only options we are able to use are Spectrum and the usual live tv stuff.
The Fubo project delivers what i need but the price is a bit much.
Thinking about things and since Ballys is probably going to go away, they won't be a huge advantage.
FRNDLY and Plex along with ADB Tuner with encoders are the best right now.