IPTV - Will channels support it?

Channels Apple TV Feature Requests
#29

If it works the same way that Spectrum's app works with regular cable subscriptions, it's only partially tied to your home internet.

With Spectrum's app, not all channels are available for streaming unless you are connected from your home internet connection. (This is determined by you IP address. If Spectrum is streaming to the same IP address that it has assigned your modem, then it is streaming to your home.) This "home streaming" gives you access to all of the channels that you subscribe to.

However, when you try to access your streams from outside the home—meaning that the IP address you are attempting to stream to is different from the one assigned to your modem—then only some of the channels are available for "live" viewing. The channels that are only available for "home streaming" are usually the local broadcast channels, some sports channels, and others that place requirements on streaming access.

#30

Except most channels are blocked. Besides premiums I get 4 out of 10 channels I subscribe to.

#31

They're blocked even when accessed from "home"? If that is the case, then you definitely need to contact Spectrum's support, because that shouldn't be the case.

If you mean they are inaccessible when viewing away from home, then there's no problem, as that is the way it is supposed to work.

#32

Right that doesn't answer my question why the stream can't be used by my Hdhomerun

#33

You need to ask at the Silicondust forum.

#34

A post was merged into an existing topic: MetroNet Fiber TV (no CableCARD offered)

#38

They sure can Premium TV was using the connects to get IPTV. No hardware is needed to use TVE.

#39

jeez, no one seems to understand this.

read and understand this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TV_Everywhere

you pay spectrum for a bunch of channels, spectrum gives you a login that you can use with tv everywhere so you can watch the tv channels you pay for via their respected apps and websites whether you use it at home via spectrum internet, or at home if you pay someone else for internet and you pay Spectrum for TV, or at Grandma's home with dial up.

THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH YOUR INTERNET CONNECTION. CABLE BOXES OR HDHOMERUNS. hdhomeruns and the tv everywhere streams have nothing to do with each other, they are not meant to be used together, never were and never will. Its like asking why your gas car wont work if you put diesel in it.

So, instead of you going through the tnt website or tnt app to watch tnt with your spectrum login, espn website or espn app to watch espn with your spectrum login, etc, etc, Channels TVE aggregates all these website/app streams that you pay for with your spectrum tv package and presents it nicely to you.

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MetroNet Fiber TV (no CableCARD offered)
#40

Gee you don't understand. This thread IS NOT ABOUT TV EVERYWHERE. It's about IPTV.

#41

tv everywhere is iptv. tv everywhere streams are delivered via internet protocol. Again, hdhomeruns cant receive and authenticate television delivered via ip.

#42

Show me where I asked about TV Everywhere? Uverse is IPTV it comes through the cable line. Just like my Spectrum stream, which is NOT THE SAME SIGNAL THAT IS SENT TO A CABLE BOX.

#43

were talking about Channels here, not the one time silicondust offered a cable package service that folded because it was found to be illegal.

this abomination of a thread were people are saying confusing things is not helping the people who are more confused and confusing the people they ask for help.

Debbie saying the prime can still be used for all tve providers and youtube tv is wrong. Someone else keeps asking why cant the hdhomerun cant get tve, etc etc. it doesn't do that, that's not how it works inside this software we are paying for.

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#44

IPTV is a generic term and encompasses many different technologies. It just means the video stream is coming over Internet Protocol as opposed to legacy cable transmission, but says nothing about the format/authentication used. Each IPTV implementation is different and they are not compatible with each other.

Uverse IPTV uses a proprietary IPTV format and requires a cable box.

HDHR Premium TV also used their own proprietary IPTV format and required a HDHR box.

Spectrum probably uses standard web streaming technology with proprietary authentication, and requires that you use their app or website.

Countries like UK and NZ have started offering web streams of many OTA channels, which is also referred to as IPTV.

Many dubious IPTV services also exist, which offer legally-questionable streams in a semi-standard m3u format.

The only "IPTV" supported by Channels is the TV Everywhere system, which uses standardized web streams and standardized authentication that works across all major US cable providers and networks.

For other "IPTV" sources, we have no plans to add support. You can check out a project like xteve or Telly to do your own integration, but your mileage will vary and we do not officially support those setups.

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#45

your h.264 spectrum streams that your hdhomerun can read is not iptv. its delivered via QAM modulation unlike uverse that delivers it via ip which a hdhomerun cant read. they are both h.264 under different modulations.

now, if your talking about Spectrum TV Essentials, since you are not very clear on those two posts i quoted, thats a different animal then the vague "my spectrum feed" Since traditional Spectrum cable tv is delivered to your house differently on the same cable compared to the way Spectrum TV Essentials is delivered to your house "through your modem" via the same exact cable.

HDHomeruns can read Spectrum Cable, they cant read Spectrum TV Essentials.

Spectrum Cable ≠ Spectrum TV Essentials.

#46

Essentials is one of the packages that Spectrum offers. It is delivered the same way as any other package that Spectrum offers, if you choose to bypass the need for a cable box.

#47

no its not.

Spectrum TV Essentials : offers a set lineup of 62 cable channels (but no local broadcast or sports channels) for $14.99/month.

The TV Stream and TV Essentials options require Spectrum Internet service and must be used with Spectrum's apps for either Roku, Apple TV, Xbox One, Samsung Smart TVs, internet browser, or iOS or Android devices. The TV Choice option can be used with either the Spectrum apps or with traditional cable boxes or CableCARD devices.

#48

Nope, you don't need a cable box at all in my area. I had their Silver plan and only needed an Apple TV. For the streaming plans, you don't need an Apple TV. Essentials is delivered no different

#49

oh god. its because you were using their "iptv" streaming app and probably saved yourself a box rental. it is delivered differently if you had a cable box but you just cant seem to understand the delivery method. thats why that "iptv" stream from your apple tv cant be seen by the hdhomerun.

if you get a hdhomerun prime and a cable card for your silver plan, then yes, the hdhomerun can see it. because its delivered differently! via the same cable!

if you cant see that, then you're going to have a hard time trying to troubleshoot things here.

#50

So now now you are saying it's IPTV, when the entire time you said it wasn't. Making your entire argument nonsense.

#51

its ok to not understand the world around you and just expect for the lights to go on when you click the switch, but your screwed if you're the one tasked to change the switch and you cant comprehend whats it is being said to you.

if you want to continue this argument, i suggest you familiarize yourself with how cable systems work compared to how any of their "iptv" implementations work instead of continually arguing that "its the same because its the same line" and "why doesn't it work with my toaster".

p.s: do i have to explain to why there are quotes around a word regarding the context of this thread? because i am not.