So I know this has been asked before, but I was hoping for a more detailed explanation. What is the difference in protocol for Prime Video Channels? What is preventing them from being integrated? I’m honestly just curious, not trying to ruffle any feathers.
As an alternative, is there a way to do a stream link to the live channels guide on prime video?
Trying to create as much of an integrated experience as possible, like many others. 
thanks everyone!
Prime video doesn’t support TVE, so it can’t be integrated that way. I’m not an expert, but I think streamlinks may work with prime video, so that’s one way Of doing at least some integration with Channels. Not sure what the “live channels” are that you are referring to, but I think right now Channels only supports linking to specific media items.
Yeah, so for several Prime Video Channels (esp. premiums) there are live channels available. There is also a live channel guide on the website/Fire TV, although I can’t find it on the app.
But good thoughts. Thanks!
For things like prime, paramount amc+ etc.
There are two things that prevent the mods
the live tv the station/service uses isn't TVE which is the protocol this service uses
If the is TVE is under DRM. We can't integrate it.
The Oompa Loompas unionized, went on strike and now refuse to work. It's so hard to find indentured work anymore.
I don't think you ruffle questions by asking.
You just make me a little depressed. Reminding us all the stuff we can't do. sniffles lol
I really do understand lol. I just wanted a clearer understanding. I know I’m newer to this, and the mods/others here have already gone through the ringer trying to make things work. Still learning how impossible the world can be sometimes.
I guess my follow up question, for anyone who cares to answer…what protocol do those services actually use? I know it’s not TVE or M3U…again, just trying to learn. I did some Googling, but I didn’t know where to look.
They don’t typically share those kind of details, because doing so would potentially make it easier to hack their services. Generally though they’re probably using industry standard video formats with a layer of authentication/DRM baked in. They have no incentive to allow their content outside their own app ecosystem. Data is money these days, and allowing users to access the content with third party apps gives them less data and opens the door to piracy.
Darn Oompa Loompas. We haven't had a pre-release in almost two weeks. 
There is a new one right now.
Cool! I was getting the shakes.
People get antsy when there's no pre-release. Doesn't even matter if every thing is working as its supposed to. We are all just so used to 3x releases in 1 day. Hehe. They have us spoiled.
They have us hooked. Checking into rehab.
Sharing my experience with my setup and the "live" tv guide on my 4k firestick. I use NVIDIA Shield primarily but have firesticks at frequently unused locations in the house for visitors. I have Plex as a backup tied to my antenna outside in case cable goes down (no channels). With the software update i noticed all of the channels that were on my antenna are now incorporated via plex in the live guide. I have no idea how it works but it does. I imagine if you really wanted to use it like that you could setup plex with all of your cable cards and the firestick would see them. I'm not a coder or software person, merely sharing.
There is another service that you can use called PlayOn Desktop and PlayOn Cloud to record shows from on-demand services like Amazon Prime. The PlayOn Desktop is a Windows only application and uses your login credentials to various on-demand video services. It will then stream the video and capture the video to your computer. PlayOn Cloud does the same, but captures the video in their cloud where you can download the MP4 or stream to your device. PlayOn Cloud will delete the cloud file after a couple of days.
These are available at PlayOn.tv. PlayOn works with Amazon Prime, Netflix, Hulu, YouTube, HBO Max, Disney+, and many other Video-on-demand services, you just have to have credentials for the services you want to record from.
With PlayOn Cloud you purchase credits (about $.25 each) and then each recording uses 1 (720P) or 3 (1080P) credits. PlayOn Desktop is currently on sale for $40 for 12 months. PlayOn Desktop used to have a lifetime plan and may offer it from time to time. I added the folder where PlayOn saves videos to to Channels DVR's Local Content and watch the video's using Channels DVR.
Another on-demand recording service is called AnyStream from Redfox.bz. It does record in 1080P 5.1 Dolby Digital, but is currently limited to Amazon Prime, Disney+ and NetFlix.
AnyStream is working on a PRO version that will include Hulu and HBO Max.
Tried the trial of AnyStream ... downloaded a 2 hour movie with dolby+ and 1080P in 5 minutes.
I have playon desktop (lifetime). Never heard of anystream by redfox. Im checking this out. Thanks for tip.
Also tips for playon cloud. Watch for sales on credits. They sometimes do bulk sales as low as $0.09 per credit.
Playon on is good but the lack of Dolby Audio support really takes the enjoyment of watching a high quality action movie. It is ok for hallmark Christmas movies ...
I mainly use Playon desktop to download 90s sitcoms. It runs almost 24hrs a day. I try to keep as much of my content legal (criminally, not cival) as I can. DVD rips, DVR with commercials stripped out, playon etc.
I use Playon Cloud almost exclusively to get missed/damaged/interrupted DVR recordings (fckng sports and president speeches always interrupt primetime tv shows. They need to stay on ESPN and CSPAN)
I just downloaded the other software from Red Fox (also best comedian EVER, You Gotta Wipe Your A$$ Hole) I haven't played with it yet.
Primary selling point of Playon is convenience and ease of use. Playon Cloud is Wife Tested and Approved (very hard to get)
I found another app that is similar to PlayOn called StreamFab by the makers of DVDFab. I've been using it for a little over a week and really like it. It doesn't record a stream from services like NetFlix, but actually downloads them and it does so much faster than streaming and capturing the show. It depends on the source service, but many of the things I've downloaded are at 1080p with 5.1 audio. I've even gotten a few HBO Max titles at 4K resolution. One thing it doesn't have is the ability to subscribe to a show and get new episodes as they are released. I got their "All in One" lifetime deal for $240 which is pretty expensive. Check it out at https://www.dvdfab.cn/ It works with Apple TV+, Amazon Prime, Hulu, HBO Max, Paramount+ Disney+, Discovery+ plus many other services.
I've tried the Red Fox program and it works incredibly well. You can download a great many videos during their free trial. I was able to get high quality files and quick downloads. It is a little pricey, but if you want good quality files for your private collection it's worth it.
The only issue I had is how to pay for it. The company is in Europe and I tried with a couple of credit cards from US banks and the US banks rejected the charge because of the country where the company is. They do accept bitcoin, but it's all just a little to sketchy for me. If they begin accepting PayPal or some other similar service I'll try again.