Live TV provider or not... IT'S ALREDY BEEN DONE by the Live Channels app (Android).
Pluto is the default app in Live Channels (in addition to HD HomeRun). Pluto works similar to how Philo, Hulu, YouTube TV & others work in Channels DVR...
Sooo... this begs the question as to why if Live Channels can do it why not Channels DVR?
YEA YOU TELL EM!!! if a trillion dollar company with unlimited resources, multi million dollar business agreements, fleet of engineers and millions of dollars exchanging between them, why cant a 3 man team totally change their own business plan and do what google does!!
if they can do it, why cant everyone else!
Live Channels is using the app as the backend; Channels does not support using a different app to handle the streams.
This is an apples and oranges comparison.
You lost me on that one.
Backend?
Different app to handle the streams?
Can you explain or give some examples to help clarify those two statements for me?
Thanks.
The Android Live Channels app uses the Pluto App to make the channels available. Live Channels is simply a front-end. This is similar to how Live Channels presents HDHR.
It's time to move on.
Thanks, Mike... that helps me to understand a little more then I did.
So, if "This is similar to how Live Channels presents HDHR" that seems to indicate that Channels DVR already has the capability to present Pluto similar to how Live Channels is doing it.
Is that right, or did I miss something in the translation?
You're missing a step. Channels talks directly to the tuner. Pluto does not advertise itself as a tuner for other devices on your network. Instead, Pluto tells Android how the system can use it as a tuner for Live Channels. Live Channels is merely acting as a wrapper for Pluto's service; this type of functionality is only available to Android on a system level which is restricted to Live Channels. Channels does not have the ability to use an Android app as a tuner source for its DVR.
Ah so... Thanks Racameron for the nice explanation.
I'm beginning to understand the problem.
Well... I thought I was on the verge of understanding why it is so hard for Channels DVR to incorporate Pluto TV into TV everywhere; then a few days ago, I got an e-mail from the streaming service Reelgood stating they had just released a new version of Reelgood with Pluto TV added to it.
Sure enough, Pluto is there functioning just like all the other streaming services that are in Reelgood.
That now makes TWO different services (that I'm aware of) providing Pluto TV in their TV streams.
Soooo... once again, why not Channels DVR?
Does Reelgood actually offer the PlutoTV streams from within their app, or do they merely aggregate the guide and content metadata and when requested the user is directed to the proper place in PlutoTV's app.
I don't use Reelgood, so I can't definitively answer this; but I largely suspect the latter. And if it is indeed the latter, then what they are doing with PlutoTV is different from what you are requesting.
Are you talking about this one?
If so, how did Live Channels & Reelgood do it?
Would a simple channel converter do the job for Channels DVR? The converter could be run when TVE calls up Pluto. That way nothing (other then the converter) would be changed in Channels DVR.
Does Reelgood actually offer the PlutoTV streams from within their app.
Yes & no. All Pluto TV show information act just like all the other Hulu, Philo, YouTube TV, Sling TV etc on Reelgood. They pop up just as quick with no noticeable delay.
I can watch the trailers for Pluto TV or movie... from inside Reelgood.
But... when actually watching the movie I get a listing showing me the complete selection of services that I can watch the movie on. As Reelgood is a database of all available movies & TV shows this is completely normal for Reelgood.
So, Pluto acts & runs exactly the same as all the other streaming services on Reelgood.
So you're using Reelgood as an example for integrating PlutoTV streams into Channels, but that's not actually what Reelgood does.
Reelgood aggregates information from different services and directs you out to other apps for the actual content.
Channels ingests content from your tuner or Locast/TVE streams and makes that content locally available from directly within Channels.
This is an apples to oranges comparison.
No... I'm just showing that others are incorporating Pluto TV into their services.
That's what I said about actually watching the movie.
Yes, I already know that.
Again... I'm just showing that others are incorporating Pluto TV into their services & want the same for Channels DVR as it is simply the best out there but is missing one VERY important item... Pluto TV.
As an end user, the details of how it's done may be mine boggling, detailed, or fairly simple. I just want to see it done because as an end user all I really see is that others have Pluto TV & Channels DVR does not.
I'm pretty sure everyone gets the point that you want Pluto in channels. Personally, I'm tired of reading this crap. I come to this site to learn and help others. This non-stop whining is non-sense.
Boy, you're a nice guy aren't you.
Either way I'm gone as I too am tried of this nonsense.
I believe Pluto and Channels has been beaten to death no going to happen as off now.