Beta: tvOS & iPad Multiview

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#198

They haven’t been checked yet. But if turning down the GOP helped, I suspect you’re decreasing the cpu needed to decode the video streams, which would align with just generally reaching the maximum resources of the Apple TV.

As Channels is an open system, you guys have the ability to send anything you want. There’s only so much we can do to ensure a positive experience.

Multiview seems to handle the out of box supported content that Channels provides for everyone. It’s going to be up to the user to figure out if the streams they bring to Channels work or not in an environment where up to 4 streams are playing at once.

All that being said, there probably is not much more we can do to optimize on the Channels side, and at some point, some streams are just not going to be suitable for Multiview.

This goes for a single stream as well. You can hand Channels an 8k 120fps video, but it’s up to the hardware on if it’s going to work or not.

On a positive note, we may have all found a reason to upgrade Apple TVs as they are released :joy:

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#199

Obviously not something someone would normally do, but when clicking right/left very fast many time (multi view on, but one stream in full screen) will crash app.

#200

Thanks. We've experienced that. Memory usage hits the Apple TV max memory limit and tvOS dumps the app. Slowly cycling back and forth (like a human) does not actually retain memory in the same manner and works correctly.

It's very odd. There seems to be a bit of delay happening on releasing the memory used, that you can out pace by switching back and forth very fast.

We're still not done looking into it, but we did not find anything obvious in initial investigations.

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#201

M4 CPU has plenty of juice left when running multiview

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#202

Well of course it does.

#203

This was resolved in the latest TestFlight beta:

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#204

This happens also after connecting via QuickTime.

#205

The HomeKit cameras from Control Center is working better. However there is still an odd issue with it. When going from Homekit single camera view to the Multiview HomeKit camera view, it starts playing the Multiview channels streams in the background. Then if you hit back on the remote to the single camera the Multiview steams stop again until you exist the HomeKit cameras. This shouldn't start playing until you exit the HomeKit cameras from the Control Center regardless if your viewing a single camera or multiple cameras.

This happens in the Multiview and in the regular streaming from the guide.

#206

This is just the nature of how tvOS works. The video players will only be interrupted when audio is playing from another source, and they will resume when that interruption is complete.

#207

I tested this same scenario on 9 different apps. Youtube, Netflix, Disney, tubi, frndly, Paramount+, hulu, plex, prime video. Only one other app has the issue where multiview on the cameras start playing sound in the background. The others do not start playing anything until you exit the control panel. frndly was the only other app to behave like ChannelsDVR.

#209

oooooook. Let's try one more time. I think I have it now:

#210

Lookin good!

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#214

Still loving Multiview and testing it aggressively.

With two channels playing, the new popular choice over here, these are the two layouts. Both are side-by-side, but neither uses all of the available display:

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Could we also get the option for something like this?

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Yes, it looks just like PIP, but it also works entirely better than PIP, in this specific context at least, so it would be great to see this live multiview layout available, for the "best of both worlds."

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#215

Cool idea, we’ll look at it in the future. But not for the initial delivery of the feature.

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#216

I just wanted to tell you guys thank you for Channels DVR and continually providing updates and new features.

I know everyone has their own reasons for using it, but for me, it's to keep the wife happy. She loves being able to record shows that she will never watch and having everything on the same guide. The grand babies love having their shows and movies on an app that their grandma can navigate without having to call papa everyday. :laughing:

I love being able to customize it to do exactly what I want it to do without having to reinvent the wheel every time. Thanks.

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#217

When one of the streams is interrupted for whatever reason, why does multiview throw up a triangle '!' error instead of doing an auto reload? Channels auto reloads recordings, is this a live TV thing? Because I pretty much never watch live except for multiview.

Seems kind of silly to toggle over to the interrupted channel and manually do a reload channel command when channels could just do it itself. You could just throw up the rotating three dots indefinitely if the channel doesn't come back.

#218

Multiview has worked perfectly for me, and is an awesome upgrade to the live tv experience!

@maddox is there any possibility in the future to launch multiview from normal playback.
Eg. Swipe down - long press channel in quick guide - add to multiview ?

Thanks devs!

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#219

Auto multi-view option! Pick between PIP or Multi-view.

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#220

Has anybody noticed a situation where certain channels will play fine if they are the first channel selected in Multiview, but you get the triangle if it isn’t first? I’ll have to diagnose more to see if there is a pattern. (I didn’t review all 200+ posts before this, so not sure if somebody has already reported this).

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#221

It should also reload quicker instead of waiting for the 32sec timeout.

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