Feature Request: Siri Search on Recorded Shows

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We use AppleTV universal search extensively - would be great if Channels recorded content was available in search results. Do the devs believe this is possible?

Universal search is only available to partners that Apple feels like letting it work with. It’s not an open API in the SDK that we can use. We’d of done it a long time ago if so :frowning:

Why can you not add a verbal “text search”…like we currently use on New Shows, etc. in Channels’ web ui/apps. This works and is not a “Siri” search per se.

At least add an a-z picker, like Emby.

@tmm1 and @maddox - added to direct attn to both devs

The search widget that tvOS uses is quite obnoxious. It doesn’t just slip into well designed UI since it does a full takeover of the view. When focused it expands to be huge. Having those in the guide and other views would very much ruin the experience.

This is why every tvOS app has search in a single tab. You can’t just add it in simply like on iOS.

We think about every feature of our app deeply before making decisions, and having better search is something we think about a lot.

We know search in Channrls leaves a lot to be desired, and we’ll get it working even better someday. But not until we’ve decided on a great easy implementation.

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To continue dialogue posted today (8/16/19) in “Voice Control” thread:

The specific reason I am requesting “Siri” to be added is so that I am not forced to:

  1. Wait (sometimes more than 10 seconds) for the recorded list to populate in order to select choice.

  2. Scroll for pages and pages to “jump” to “W”

(Applies to web ui, iOS and tvOS apps.)

Hopefully, this might shed additional info that would allow various “Siri” requests to be re-analyzed by devs.

P.S. Now recordings have more than 800 movies. :grinning:

@DebbieFL we love Channels for what it does best which I believe nothing else can compete. But for my stored Movies I use PLEX. However, my movies have no commercials so maybe that is why you need them in Channels for the commercial skip? Anyway, PLEX does allow for SIRI Search of all Content which I why I mentioned it.

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Are you confusing Siri with dictation? The only voice search I see within channels is dictation when searching for something to record, Siri is entirely different.

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Thanks, I have used Plex in the past...just for this feature. Also was using MrMC (much lighter weight and and only 1X cost). At one time on a special offer...I did seriously think of purchasing Plex Lifetime) but trusted @tmm1 and @maddox to “add” functionality to Channels DVR.

I was so glad though when I was able to delete “Plex” due to more functionality being added over last 3yrs to Channels (replicating some of strengths of Plex that I was still using)...however, that is why I keep re-opening my original request.

I would hate to have to return to Plex/MrMc just to “USE” this (IMO) simple function within Channels. I am trying to have a “One App” solution for my household.

It took 3 years for my family to finally “fully use” Channels. Once using...Channels DVR quickly became the #1 App...however NOW, I am getting a lot of gripes about the lack of “Search” (the wait time for results of all recordings) and then scrolling through pages to just to re-watch “War of the Worlds”, adults acting like children and re-playing the same cartoon/movie over and over! :innocent:

I do not want anyone to have to return to MrMC (Plex) and thus lose that #1vote on Channels DVR.

:grinning: Sorry for being so long-winded on my answer :grinning:

Absolutely was, that is why I keep adding further detail about my reasons for “Siri” request.

Originally...and to this day...hadn’t thought to say “dictate”...which is why my original reply to Maddox stated “not Siri, per se” just a search function as in Search for New Shows!

Thanks for the add...really brings this request into focus. Henceforth, I will use “dictate” rather than “SIRI”.

Many :heart: for your excellent suggestion.

CC: @maddox @tmm1

I never use the Voice Search (Dictate ??) in Channels because i don't have that much to search. Are you saying the search does not work for Recordings? Or just not Movie Recordings? I.E. Only searches for New Shows in the Guide? If only Guide Search I can understand why you would also want Recordings Search.

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YES! Only New!

Ah. Understand.

Search has always only worked as a way to find upcoming guide listings, and the dictation part of that is really nice.

My suggestion would be to add recorded shows/movies as part of the search tab, and instead of the heading being only "search results" there would be three categories...
"Upcoming", "Recorded Shows", and "Recorded Movies"

If there are no recordings matching the keyword search then those categories would not be shown.

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BTW: This is a great suggestion...let Search also include “Recordings” with capability of going directly to the Recording!

It would solve the basic problem if dev’s would ADD.

@tmm1 and @maddox @eric

HaHa @JMcGuire we were typing replies simultaneously. Thanks to you also!

As Maddox stated, the search widget and APIs are notoriously hard to work with and very inflexible.

I agree it would be nice to be able to search recorded shows and movies, but that does not mean it's easy to implement. The dvr backend search feature only includes upcoming guide data. We are planning to upgrade the search backend in the future to allow for additional features.

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Thank you...now, I understand more completely about latest impediment.

FUTHER:

I apologize to you and “all other posters/readers” for “My Latest Irrational behaviours”.

EVEN FURTHER:

Since the beginning of month which further intensified to the point of destructiveness 4 days ago....specifically posts to @CaptainRon and references to yourself in multiple posts.

Recognizing my own “problem” and recent “ID” of the cause, will assist me to cease same.

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No worries. I understand your husband's frustrations and it's useful to hear how the product is reaching its limits with several years of heavy usage.

Can you elaborate on how this works in Emby? Is it the letter side bar that appears when scrolling?

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Of course! Will provide screenshots later PM est

This is how it is done on Plex, the A-Z indicator is always shown on the library view with the indicator moving as you scroll, you can also navigate to the A-Z column itself (the indicator becomes larger once you are on it) and quickly scroll from A-Z.

While I am posting photos I also took this from Plex, they use a simple placeholder for the "more" selection. Many of my friends/family had to be taught what the empty box was in Channels, a similar placeholder would really help convey this (currently "more" only shows up when the empty box is highlighted)

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Apologize for the delay