Not that I want to discuss this anymore, but I thought your main issue was with TVE. Since Plex and HDHomerun apps don't have TVE at all, seems like they are not really a good replacement. TVE is still somewhat experimental, but many of us have been using it successfully. The developers put in a lot of effort to keep it updated, but some things are beyond their control. I won't discuss this anymore with you, not that I am not interested, but it is not longer productive.
That's a great point - if you want to record TVE, you need channels.
Oh and also, take note...
"one of these things is not like the others..."
That badge is there for a reason. It's always wise to keep expectations in check.
For what it's worth, I have Plex Pass too and for live TV and DVR it simply does not hold a candle to Channels DVR. You may have different standards than I do when it comes to business model and user interface, though.
Also, demanding immediate, personalized responses from a tiny team of software developers and then insulting them and their product and the community they've created to try and help, probably won't get you far along either
Anyway, enjoy your vacation. Check out Miss T's, just thinking about her BBQ oxtail is making me drool.
Soooooo much truth here..
Just got home from Disneyland but looking at the responses so far in this thread, it looks like everyone has given you the right advice.
2023/08/03 14:40:39.707734 [ERR] Could not start stream for TVE-Philo ch6756 DOVE: TVE: Could not fetch playlist: cinedigm.vo.llnwd.net: Get "https://cinedigm.vo.llnwd.net/conssui/amagi_hls_data_xumo1234A-dovenow/CDN/master.m3u8": dial tcp: lookup cinedigm.vo.llnwd.net: no such host
Not being able to perform a DNS lookup of cinedigm.vo.llnwd.net
indicates there's something fundamentally unwell with your DNS setup. It could be a local firewall/AV setup, it could be a network ad-blocker, it could be bad DNS servers.
As for this error:
2023/08/02 22:18:11.736736 [TNR] Error during live stream for ch6044 HISTORY: Failed to download segment 125618: https://live.video.aetnd.com/brand_live_streams/history/primary/history_3500_125618.ts: write D:\Streaming\channels-cache-3177514338\125618-ce4bb92c2044c53cceb85da98477079fd2a38cea89b5f468b24c98020189a3ba: The request could not be performed because of an I/O device error.
Having an IO error like this indicates either a failing drive or some sort of AV system causing issues.
This log message:
2023/08/02 22:00:00.025603 [SNR] Statistics for "TV\Hogan's Heroes\Hogan's Heroes S03E25 1968-02-24 LeBeau and the Little Old 2023-08-02-2130.mpg": ss=89%,86%-91% snq=49%,0%-82% seq=60%,0%-100% bps=5823551,0-11146144 pps=498,0-954 sigerr=39%
with the sigerr=39%
indicates you're having OTA antenna reception issues on Channel 24.1.
I believe most or all of these issues have been previously called out by people on this thread, but I just wanted to give my vote that they're all on the right track.
Thank you I appreciate the response. New hope.
I don't think Fubo carries AMC. Fubo is not in the list of option when I go to provider log in page
It allows me to add both FUBO and Philo.
Did you finally remove McAfee and fix your Windows/DNS issue? And how was Jamaica?
Yes it’s a waiting game now. Fingers crossed. Jamaica was great hot but great. Settling in for the fall/winter now. Thanks for the help.
So Plex does do a TVE just not as extensive as Channels but if you count in the Plex channels and new partnerships with A&E it’s raw channel count is 2-3 times that of Channels DVR. In addition it natively serves up music, Photos, and Movies. DVR functionality is similar. So for an “all in one” streamer it offers at least the features of Channels and then some. With a lifetime Plex Pass subscription no more fees.
Channels has a nice interface and works reasonably well. I still say Plex holds its own and is just a more mature product. It’s exceptionally stable too.
Channels is a nice immature program. But at $8 per month and its reliance on this community for its tech support IMO tips the scale in Plex direction. Since I have both it’s been nice doing a head to head comparison. Enjoying Channels but once my year subscription expires I think I’ll save some money. If Channels had a lifetime subscription the decision would be more difficult but with everyone watching their pennies in this financial environment this makes sense. Eighty bucks is eighty bucks and the differences between the two are pretty small.
Not that i can find. Many forms asking for it, but all closed and locked. Many people mention Channels DVR.
Like this... Feature Request: Add TV Everywhere to Live TV Dvr - Feature Suggestions - Plex Forum
Furthermore, it already been discussed to death many times here, A Lifetime Subscription option is not viable for Channels DVR. Small company, small team. Unlike Plex.
Plex is thinking about doing away with LifeTime Passes as it is not making much new money.
Plex Job Losses – Should You Be Worried? THE END OF LIFETIME PLEX PASS? – NAS Compares
So Plex offers over 400 Plex channels in addition to my local tuner channels including Fox, AMC, History, A&E, etc. Channels does not offer 1/10 the Plex channels through TVE. These Plex channels are included with their subscription or lifetime. Consequently, if I figure in my subscription fees to Philo and/or FUBO etc the price difference is significant in excess of $100.00 per month. So I have access to approximately 60 channels using Channels for around $120/month. Plex give me access to over 500 channels for the cost of a lifetime subscription which I purchased for less than $100 one time.
Well if you feel that way do not use Channels DVR ... Channels DVR concentrates on it's DVR Service which is outstanding compared to PLEX ... Stop comparing a full fledge DVR to A full Fledge media provider. Plex DVR sucks. The DVR Part is what I choose to pay for + Support.
When I set up Plex it asks for your the streaming services one subscribes to and while not as complete as Channels it integrates some of my paid content into their guide including Fox, A&E, Dove, Grit etc.
Currently, that is my plan once my year of Channels ends. Promoting Channels as the end all be all is just disingenuous. Plex has their issues too but in value for the money Channels cannot hold a candle to Plex. I enjoy Channels but ultimately I’m looking for an all in one solution so I don’t have to switch between programs to do things. Plex is currently adding content providers to their lineup. Not sure how it all ends but at this time Plex is moving up. Channels future is undecided in my opinion. It’s small and I believe they will be under increasing pressure to compete in a big money market. They just don’t have the resources to mount any pressure to the bigger operations. Another point is Channels is not for your average consumer. There are many parts and pieces necessary to set it up and make it work. Your average computer illiterate will have much difficulty. Without good support extremely difficult.
As a Lifetime Plex Pass holder, that is not my experience at all. For instance:
But this...
Those aren't TVE stations; those are FAST stations, like Pluto. And you can get those in Channels. I have them right now, and it means I've mixed together stations from my HDHR, TVE, Plex, Pluto, YouTube Streams, and others all in one place! I think you need to do some additional exploration of what Channels has to offer:
Reading what you've written makes me think we're using two completely different products. I mean, if Plex does what you want and you are happy with it, good for you. But for me, it is not even close. Just the other day, I discovered that Plex had taken over 65gb(!!!) of space for no good reason at all, and I had to dig deep into the settings to find out why and how to reverse it.
As a person who wants a completely simplified visual media experience, I can sum up Plex in one word: disjointed. Channels has made it possible to do almost everything I want to do, things I spent the better part of a decade trying to cobble together myself. But if you do not use or see value in those unique features (like Custom Channels and Channel Collections I highlighted above), then it is probably best for you to move on.
I have gotten nothing but no support, or been told, thats just how it is... when i have tried to bring up issues i have had with Plex on their forms or via email support. Some are minor things, but others are full on useability issues, crashes, and just clear bugs. Only get crickets from them.
Channels DVR, great support, great responses by devs. Not every interaction is 5 stars, but gotten many issues fixed same day here. They care about their users.
I still use Plex as my local media server, moved over from Emby, since the devs of Emby don't care about Apple TV ecosystem much, and mainly focus on Android and PC. But, i use Infuse app as my player, cause it just is superior.
YUP! I recently dumped in a bunch of channels Pluto, Plex, Samsung, and a couple Streamlink into Channels. My mother freaking LOVES certain channels that marathon her fav shows etc. I love certain channels to. Very cool that i can just integrate them into Channels and record them (except the Streamlink ones since that opens outside app).