On the Demise of HDHomeRun Premium TV

LOL!

Atlantic Broadband.
They can do whatever they want 'cause the people they serve have ZERO OPTIONS!

You can bet your bippy AB has all the horsepower they need to do whatever they want. Big Cable and well paid Government has paved the way to financial bliss. Big Cable can only get bigger as the cost of pay tv can only increase. It's built right in.

It doesn't matter how uncompetitive your market is. CableCARD support is required by law.

47 CFR § 76.1204 ("Availability of equipment performing conditional access or security functions") requires that CableCARD be offered in lieu of a set top box.

The August 2011 FCC CableCARD Enforcement Advisory requires that CableCARD be offered for all service plans, and that it must cost the same (and often less) than the plan costs with a set top box. It also requires that your cable provider allow you to self-install your CableCARD if they allow self-installation for set top boxes.

You will definitely have to get on the phone to order a CableCARD, and if the rep says a plan isn't available with a CableCARD you'll definitely have to ask them to double-check with a supervisor (be sure to cite the sources above if necessary). But keep trying. You're talking to someone working in sales, not support, so they will be more willing than you might think to accommodate because they also want to make the sale.

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Tried, didn't work, they flat refused to even discuss it. It doesn't matter much anyway, 'cause the internet along with any of their pricey bundles is completely out of the realm of possibilities. 200 bucks a month for internet and TV? Maybe - if burn the furniture in the winter and give up eating, but no... not happening.

I'll just do the same thing I've been doing since they give me no other options - I do have that fancy internet... and know how to use it, but TV on a wire to be recorded would be nice. Just not in my neighborhood.

Outside of blocking every premium channel in the guide, is there a faster method to disable premium TV ? Changing the “HDHomeRun Premium Channels” setting to off has no effect.

There was an issue with the company HDHomerun was using to provide the service, they got sued. Similar OTA services are in similar situations

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While I haven't subscribed to them I did find a couple threads that may help using the forum search for Premium Channels.

https://community.getchannels.com/t/hdhomerun-premium-tv-channels-showing-in-guide/14191

https://community.getchannels.com/t/unavailable-hdhomerun-premium-channels-still-present-in-channels-guide/12396

If they don't help, I would create a new thread in DVR Troubleshooting.

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I never got what the Premium TV thing was all about. Is it a streaming service? How does that work with a TV tuner?

PTV is IPTV - kinda.

IPTV is TV that arrives over the internet - like Netflix/Prime/Other. I don't think PTV could have worked without one of their tuners - that would see it as a source. I don't think your TV could use it - but that's a very general guess.

With an HDHR Tuner, the OTA shows up normally and the PTV showed up as another source - like magic. PTV actually used a tuner in the HDHR box, but I don't know if your TV could see it as a source. Basically it worked with HDHR units and as far as I know that's where it stopped working also.

The idea of it was great.
The implementation was a total disaster.
Be glad you weren't annoyed by it because even as it's mule saunter's off into the sunset dramatically, the ploppers it's leaving behind stank to high heaven. I have it for another 27 days - and it's broken.

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How strange. Of course I'm familiar with IPTV but as you say that's usually delivered by means of app, not piggybacking on a network TV tuner box. Just all seems very odd.

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Indeed. It was extremely odd - and in six months they NEVER could deliver what was promised. It was/is awful.

After finding out a bit about it's 'creator', there's something really fishy going on there - seeing as how everybody with a dog in the Big Cable arena wants to build a gallows to dangle the guy.

A PTV thing could be great for us, but I don't think Big Cable will ever let it happen.

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This was about cable? Right - as HDHomeRun is only over the air in the UK. We do have cable but it's a closed system.

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I love UK TV. I've always said we get the best of your TV and you get the worst of ours. lol

UK TV is very open and honest - you pay for a 'license' and that money goes into the system. Your ads help, but you don't have nearly as many as we do because your ads help pay the bills - our ads have turned into a giant monster eating everything it doesn't smash or cook with it's breath of fire.

Hope your TV never turns into our TV.
"There will always be an England" - unless advertising is allowed to take over.

:smiley:

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Thanks! But that's not exactly how the setup works. We have a licence fee around US$200, that goes into funding the BBC and only the BBC. As a result the BBC doesn't run commericals, none at all.

Then we have the other channels, terrestrial broadcasters such as ITV, Channel 4, and satellite/cable like Sky. They get no licence fee money, they are funded by commerical advertising and/or subscription.

There's a very clear seperation between licence fee and no commericals, and no licence fee and commericals. One doesn't subsidise the other.

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OK... well don't know a lot about it, but when I'm there with the God Daughter I notice it's not nearly as annoying.

I see a watermark for ITV and such on your material, but I've never seen your guys use the lower third of the picture as their own personal playground! I swear there's another show going on down there at times and it's so annoying you can't get the jist of the actual program trying to run behind it.

Yes, they're very different.

lol

Personally I have the 3 tuner with a cable card- its great. Lost the cost of renting those cable boxes for just $5/month for the cable card- and I can have a tv anywhere. Currently my main use is via Channels on ATV. .

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After the demise of SD Premium, I reconnected with Suddenlink. Have Quattro and a Connect vetting the OTA channels (better HD) and one of my Primes for cable. My wife wanted a return to our TIVO box but now likes Channels best. Costs us @ $20 more total now.
Happy until Suddenlink goes up in price

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Boy, what I'd give to have IPTV support in Channels.

I did try Xteve briefly (which emulates an HDHomeRun tuner, 'tuning' an IPTV source), but it's only a partial emulation of an HDHomeRun tuner, and Channels DVR wasn't convinced. Plex DVR is apparently easier to fool.

Yes, I'm sure the U.S. Cable companies will fight it tooth and nail if it ever appears as a large enough blip on their radar for them to feel threatened. Though it'd a 'whack-a-mole' effort, frankly. Neither U.S. Cable nor the U.S. judicial system move very fast.

And there's nothing they can do about offshore IPTV sources. Being an English ex-pat, I still need my UK TV fix :slight_smile:

It worked very well for me until the glitches towards the end which was all because of the upstream provider. I will really miss it.

I too really liked the Premium Channels and was sorry to see them go. I have signed up with Philo to get some of them back, although will miss the sports. I also use Pluto as well. It would be great if there was some way to get everything on one app like Channels and see a combined guide and DVR capability. I am here in the USA Midwest between three markets and have 2 Quatros and 1 Connect connected to multiple antennas for the ota channels.

The "combined guide" is pretty important to me until I can find something else. I use Apple TV App "WatchAid" for a lot of what I watch On Demand. But for Live TV I need something like Channels that combines OTA and Streaming Service like Philo. At least a combined guide as a starting point similar to how my WatchAid works.