Love Channels, but it seems like it's the direction it's going.
Would like to hear your specific thoughts on this topic.
I have not seen a single thing related to pirate IPTV other than maybe some users talking about m3u files, etc.
But even VLC can play "pirated" content directly.
There is nothing in this software tied to pirate IPTV. That said, any software that can handle m3u streams can be co-opted for pirate use.
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My specific thoughts are there are users using a private service that doesn't know I it's illegal or not. I don't use VLC does it provide a full DVR service?
I think you're confused about the scope of the software. Channels does not provide any content, except for guide info for linear TV programming. It is merely software that plays videos, and allows you to save streams to disk.
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When did I say they provide content? If they are selling Dvr subscriptions to people that use Pirate IPTV services, I will not renew.
Sure, there will always be users doing things they should not.
However, this software does not have any default or normal setup options to allow someone ignorant of piracy to setup to receive pirate streams. To do so involves working out m3u and epg data to feed into the software, and they either do it themselves (and thus do know, or should know what they are getting into) or they are using direct links from someone else (again, not direct within this software).
And "DVR service" should not make a difference... streaming pirate content is illegal regardless of if you save a copy or not.
VLC is a common widespread player, it can stream illegal content, and you can save that content , but again, VLC, like this software does not tie into pirate content on their own or help other do so (see many posts here where users are told to go elsewhere, most no one here will help those trying to do this).
So, no, Channels is most definitely NOT headed towards pirated content!
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How would channels know what users are using for sources?
Should VLC (again, look it up, very common software) also monitor their users, compile huge every expanding m3u targets to block, etc, etc? really?
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Have you read the threads people here are telling people how to set up M3U and Epg data.
I'm not talking about VCL, I'm talking about Channels. If they want to take money from people that use Pirate sites I will not renew
I have not read every thread, but have seen multiple threads covering m3u and epg setup, things like Pluto, security cameras, etc. (again, all legal).
Please do link threads that are showing explicit pirate setup related content, as those threads should be shut down if that is happening.
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Again I don't care what other services do and I never said Channels supplied content. I said if Channels allows pirate sites to use the service, I will not renew
Yes, the USTVGO thread is related to pirate content, but no one in the thread is "helping" them, indeed, many brought up the point that it is pirate content.
So I still don't see where channels is "headed" towards pirate content.
In the end, it is the final user that makes these calls on what they will do (with any piece of software). I am not and have not seen this forum being used to help these folks (once it comes to light the source they are trying to use, I see most folks call them out on it).
Done with this thread, everyone has their own opinions, but I don't agree with this threads title opinion myself!
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There are also communities of Plex users sharing their libraries full of copyrighted content. You are making a false equivalency here. Just because some people use software for illicit/illegal purposes, that does not mean that the software shares any liability. People use crowbars to break into buildings to commit crimes, but that does not make the crowbar manufacturer legally liable.
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Someone gave them a link how to set it up
So what is Channels to do, pull features that 99% of users, use legally? Should we start prohibiting use of other software or even object because others may find an illegal use for it?
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This is an odd thread. We have said in the past that we do not support illegal IPTV. We have it in the documentation as well. We don't condone it, and we don't build for it.
That being said, we're building open general purpose software. We do this so you have the freedom to utilize Channels in any way you want. The Custom Channels feature has opened Channels up to so much different content. We wouldn't do it any other way.
Custom Channels does nothing more than let you add live streams and sprinkle metadata on top. this has allowed people to put their security cams in the app, add traffic cams, add their legal SAT>IP streams, as well as all kinds of other cool content.
While we don't condone illegal IPTV, we can't do anything to stop it. We can stop discussions in the community, but we can't stop it inside the app. There's no actual way to do it.
Working to stop customers using the software whichever way they want is akin to stopping drug dealers from running drugs up interstate 95. We can't just shut down the interstate. And we can't just check every car.
Again, I don't want this comment to read as if we're FOR illegal IPTV. We're just against policing this feature in a way that ruins it for everyone that uses it legally. Which is basically everyone.
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When did I say anything about Plex or liability. I said if this happens I will not renew.
Keep going, because none of that makes sense.
If channels starts to punch clowns in the face I will stop using it too!
Seriously, the link you posted has been "closed" , there is no widespread "help" for pirates.
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