Experimental: Local Networks (NBC, ABC, FOX) in some major metros via TVE

Channels DVR Server TV Everywhere
#393

There is a limit for TVE streams? I was not aware of it. Where is this defined?

I remember at one time I saw that my DVR was recording from 11 different TVE channels at the same time.

Also, it has no problems with 2 recordings from the same channel. This happens a lot for me because of padding and it records 2 shows back to back on the same channel. There is a small period of time (3 minutes) when it records twice from the same stream.

Maybe you're talking about the limits set by the providers.
In the case of Frndly TV, I now have the basic package that has a limit of 1 stream. However, with the Docker used in Channels for Frndly TV, I proved that this limit doesn't apply.

#394

I just assumed there was since every provider has them.

Yes

I think this is what I am referring to. Did you test by exceeding the stream limit for multiple channels or single channel. Isnt the docker still obtaining the streams via your account.

#395

I tested by setting up 5 simultaneous recordings of different channels with the Frndly TV Docker and it worked fine. With my current basic package, it is supposed to be limited to 1 stream and no DVR. No issues in Channels!

See more details here: Weather channel now gone - #24 by mjitkop

I really don't know how it is working and exceeding the limits.
As a nice bonus, my basic package with Frndly TV is supposed to provide only SD quality, not HD, but with the Docker in Channels, I still got HD.

--- Edit: sorry, I derailed this thread by talking about Frndly TV, that's off topic. For questions about streaming providers, please see this thread: Links to TVE Provider Topics

#396

Just a guess, but I believe any limits that are put in place by TVE are per device. Since the DVR is seen as a single device it doesn't exceed the active device limit.

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#397

A post was merged into an existing topic: TVE - Some PBS Stations Showing a "We've updated the way we livestream" Message

#399

I've been getting a 403 error on my FOX station for the past day. All of my other local TVE streams are fine. Diagnostics 57d01d74-cbaa-485d-8ac7-011ab760f7a6 submitted.

Failed: could not start stream on channels=[6003]
#400

I haven't been able to use FOX TVE for 5 days now and today I'm getting a new error similar to the one for other TVE channels a few weeks ago: "notAuthorized: 0070-We updated our app. Just sign out and sign back into AT&T TV or AT&T WatchTV or DirecTV this one time, and you'll be all set!"

Submitted diagnostic logs 765db3ee-e27d-4891-94d4-b2dc165541bb

Fix detailed here, it may have been DirecTV-specific: DirecTV/AT&T auth changes - #42 by alai

#401

Does anyone get a perfect picture on their local ABC station? I get pixelation every 10 seconds, especially noticeable on fast moving sports. It isn't a Channels issue because it also happens when I log into ABC, and watch directly. It is the local Tampa Florida station. FOX , CBS, and NBC all work perfect. Thanks in advance.

#402

Yup. It has been this way for over a year. I get so irate when watching a football game and looks like garbage. It is totally something they are doing on their end. It looks much better over TVE vs Over the Air. Wish the would fix it. Or do something that makes it look cleaner.

#403

Try to write to them and include screenshots as evidence. :wink:

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#404

You have that backwards but I know what you mean...

#405

Nope I don't have it backwards. My over the air for ABC is horrible here. I even sent an e-mail to them and the guy said he was frustrated with the vendors as they are pointing their figures at each other. All the other channels the Over the Air is better. Just not ABC.

#406

Unfortunately it seems like ABC has few to no standards for how local stations provide their TVE stream. My local station always has excellent OTA quality but used to provide a TVE stream at 1080p/30fps that looked absolutely horrid... really low bitrate and artifacts all over the place. As of last month it's now 720p/60fps with much higher bitrate and has been great ever since.

IIRC, CBS has had fantastic quality since they launched CBS All Access (now known as Paramount+) at 1080p/60fps and 10+ Mbps bitrate. NBC used to have a low bitrate stream for all affiliates as well until a few months ago, as discussed here.

#407

What station is it?

#408

WTAE in Pittsburgh. It's not ABC owned and operated but their owner, Hearst, is pretty cozy with ABC/Disney since they are minority owners of ESPN.

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#409

Some of my TVE locals that had worked previously are not (xfinity) namely ABC WPVI and FOX WTXF (both are in Philly). Both say “context deadline exceeded, and when I try to rescan them manually is spins for a long time and doesn’t seem to ever finish successfully. I just downloaded and updated to the latest prerelease 2022.01.04.2130

#410

They (locals) won't get fixed by rescanning them.
Do the secure HTTPS method.
Disable the experimental locals in the DVR web UI.
Connect to your Channels DVR server using secure HTTPS. https://
Enable the experimental locals in the DVR web UI.
Your browser may ask for permission to enable location service, let it.
You should see a spinner as it rescans them.
Many posts on the forum about this, including in this topic

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#411

I did the secure HTTPS method but get a not secure warning

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#412

If you used the IP address of your server or a .local name a browser will warn you the certificate doesn't match the hostname, but should let you override the warning and continue.

For instance using Firefox, once I click Advanced I can then choose to continue.

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#413

Ug I did this and it worked…. But the server is in Philly and I did it remotely from Boston, and now the locals are Boston locals. Any way to redo this and have it be in philly? Do I need to call a family member and ask them to do it? The server is a synology ds220+.