Channels app and new tivo streaming stick

If anyone can sideload the Spectrum TV App on Tivo Streaming 4K please post instruction. I'm not sure if sideloading is possible since downloader no longer works. I would like to watch Elrey and GSN networks with this device. My plan is if I can get everything working on this device I'm mothballing my Apple TV.

The Spectrum app is only for phones and tablets. It doesn't run on Android TV devices. (Same reason it doesn't work on FireTV devices, but does on Kindle tablets.)

(However, sideloading does work. It's regular Android TV under the hood. You do need to enable it, though, in the settings.)

Has anyone been able to get a usb-c ethernet adapter working with the TiVo?

I tried with this one but no luck.

I read on reddit that this one works. ...

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I don't see the need for adapter. I haven't had any streaming issues with my Tivo yet. Mine averages 157 mbps. Thats faster than my wired Fire TV Stick at 98 mbps. Plus you need another power source for the adapter above. At least the Fire TV only requires one with its adapter.

The Wi-Fi performance has been shoddy for me when trying to install development apks.

This one provides both power and Ethernet, and leaves the USB-C open for storage.

https://store.google.com/product/ethernet_adapter_for_chromecast

So are you guys are going to support this device. Or are you just playing around with it like me and others.

Did anyone else have this problem?

We won't recommend it unless the player issues can get sorted out.

But you can install it from the Play Store, it works, and even the remote buttons work. So what's left to support?

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Sorry for the tardy response. WRT my disgust with the performance of FireTV Stick 4K in comparison to the TIVO Stream 4K:
I experienced the same issues with a local FireTV Stick 4k and a physically different FireTV Stick 4k at a remote, but not all that distant, location (served by the same ISP).
You will find that the issue with the FireTV Stick 4k playing local transcoded video is well documented in a number of threads where the universal prescription is 'just use the raw original video (MPEG2)'. Original video does, indeed, work locally but is much less practical for remote connections with less than luxurious bandwidth.
I have yet to test the TiVo streamer remotely, but with local transcoded video working out of the box I am very hopeful.

Could you point me at those posts? That isn’t something I’ve been aware of. I’ve used the FireTV Stick 4K for traveling and only watch transcoded streams with it.

I am new to Android TV. How do you disable the TiVo Stream app and other ones?

Thanks

Here's How to De-Tivo Your Stream + Speed It Up

Or, go through the apps I mentioned in my post and uninstall or disable them from Settings > Apps.

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Thanks!

Can this be added a feature request?

I have not used live channels so if you can post a photo that will be helpful.




Each of the above threads involves a complaint about FireTV Stick 4K decoding transcoded video (variety of symptoms). Each gets advice to just set it to 'Original', and if it works there is no further interest in fixing the problem. Or so I read it.

As a lifelong computer guy, when the simple case fails (local) and the more complex case also fails (remote, in my case) you concentrate your debugging effort on the simple case. I understand that the work around of using original works for local, but it is just that: a workaround, and one that does not scale to remote usage very well.

Further, I understand that there are conditions when it works for one subset of users, but there seem to be quite a few cases when it does not work for another subset, which includes me.

Any insight you can offer would be appreciated.

Ah! After reading through all of these I can see how you got the impression that we were saying Original streaming fixes these issues.

The reason for us suggesting using Original quality in these cases is that it's just a better experience when streaming locally. It uses less resources on the DVR (depending no what is being played, it could avoid using the DVR entirely), playback of Live TV is faster, it takes more components out of the equation to figuring out what's wrong.

There are a lot of issues that crop up that end up being issues with the processing power, IO speed or network speed of the DVR and other devices. Making the first step of debugging issues people are having locally be to switch to Original streaming is able to side-step a lot of these issues and get the user watching their TV again as quickly as possible with the least amount of diagnostic work on their part.

When we see people with issues that do end up being related to their processing power, IO speed or network speed, we continue to catalog them internally and work on ways that we can help the user diagnose them themselves including things like our error metrics on recordings.

Watching transcoded content on the Fire TV and all of our client devices is actually much more efficient for the clients because they have to do less work because more of it is offloaded to the server.

When I joined Channels at the beginning of last year, my major focus was on remote streaming and over the past year and a half we've been able to roll out an entirely revamped subsystem on the client and server to allow for smooth streaming in almost any environment and removed the need to fiddle with bitrates and settings to get a good experience. The Fire TV Stick 4K is the primary device that I travel with and it works great with the transcoder.

At least in the case of the "Max Headroom Effect", there is no transcoding involved. It occurs during the live stream on the Fire TV 4k stick, and on the web client as well.

The server system supports at least six concurrent live transcoded streams 8Mbps 1080p streams from different channels/subchannels to the web client (all in separate pop out windows of the same browser of a different computer).
And I never saw the glitches and other misbehavior I saw with the FireTV Stick 4K either remote or local with a single stream.
It appears to me that the server and network are working pretty well.
Since it has been a few days since I have reproduced the issue (TiVo 4K streamer works well by comparison), I will try to repro this with the FireTV Stick 4K locally and bring it up in the appropriate subforum for your consideration.
Thanks for the attention.